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From: gsmith@GARNET.BERKELEY.EDU (Gene W. Smith)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.flame,soc.women
Subject: Re: The Difference It Makes . . .
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Date: 8 Feb 88 06:30:43 GMT
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  The factors in the summary line authenticate that this is from
the same "Gene W. Smith" (accept no substitutes!) who posted the
authentication scheme article. I don't propose to do this as a
general rule, now that you see it demonstrated. I will
authenticate disclaimers of any further forgeries, at least.

In article <2142@chinet.UUCP> rhonda@chinet.UUCP (Rhonda Scribner) writes:
>In article <2333@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> lazarus@athena.mit.edu (Michael Friedman) writes:

>If anything, Robinson is a parody character, much like the
>other "pseudos" built by the Brahms Gang.

  Once again, the attribution of these forgeries to the Brahms
Gang is a lie. 

>Having proudly and pompously announced his departure from soc.women in the
>grandest Brahms Gang tradition,

  Evidence for this alleged "tradition"?

>Unlike many people from that part of the country I don't
>believe conspiracy theories, I'm just amused by them.

  Following this, the Rhonda Conspiracy:

>So discounting this
>as an explanation, we are left with the core FACT of the matter that these
>accounts are the tools of a sick mind seeking to poke fun at people he
>finds stupid because they disagree with him.  That sick mind belongs to one
>Matthew Wiener, with the inevitable assistance of his cohorts the Brahms Gang.

  Don't you mean cohorts *in* the Brahms Gang? In any case, the
only sick mind which has so far resisted all requests for an
identity check is the Rhonda Manifestation. I also find it
curious that the Rhonda Manifestation, which was defending
Maroney's right to sue people for name-calling, does not hesitate
to publish lies about Matthew Wiener and myself. This, of course,
would make a better basis for a lawsuit by an ill-disposed
netter. I suggest by way of compromise that the Rhonda
Manifestation (or should that be Infestation?) only libel people
in alt.flame, where we roast weenies for fun. (Is this
"paternalistic?" Tough noogies.)

>Why didn't the ever abusive Matthew Wiener send me
>yet another of his insult filled tomes telling me what an idiot I was? 

  If you want to be insulted wear a "kick me" sign or take up
S&M. Sheesh!
 
>I would have PROVEN myself to be an idiot if Mark and Matthew
>really were not the same person.

  Quod erat demonstrandum.

  And more Rhonda:

]I love this.  Mike literally boasts here about his part in building an
]atmosphere in which people are obligated to PROVE who they are. 
 
  You tell false and malicious lies and then complain about other
people "building an atmosphere"? The "atmosphere" comes from all
the petards (in the original sense, I mean) you have been
hoisting yourself by.

]Who's calling who the big liar here?  What I have been saying about would
]only be "big lies" if they just happen not to be true.  You haven't shown
]them not to be true, by the very same standards by which you are judging me.

  In other words, you feel free to tell any lies you like about
anybody as long as you don't think anyone can prove them false?
Do you care about the question of truth at all in here?

]I have to, the intensity of the real big lies, the ones coming from you,
]telling lies about me, were believed by a number of people and accepted as
]truth.

  If you don't like lies being told about you, why do you tell
them about other people? Have I lied about you? If so, where and
what?

"This paragraph is why I have felt free to insult you."  -- Tim Maroney
  ucbvax!garnet!gsmith    Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720