Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!bellcore!decvax!decwrl!sun!pitstop!sundc!seismo!uunet!mcvax!ukc!eagle!icdoc!ivax!mmh From: mmh@ivax.doc.ic.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc Subject: Re: Re: First Languages (yet again) Message-ID: <186@gould.doc.ic.ac.uk> Date: 11 Feb 88 17:58:44 GMT References: <4022@ames.arpa> <2400002@otter.HP.COM> <932@its63b.ed.ac.uk> <2781@omepd> <975@its63b.ed.ac.uk> Sender: news@doc.ic.ac.uk Reply-To: mmh@doc.ic.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) Organization: Dept. of Computing, Imperial College, London, UK. Lines: 12 In article <975@its63b.ed.ac.uk> csrdi@itspna (R.Innis) writes: >anything within your own limits. Sadly, too many universities (this one >included) take the view that they are here to turn out people with vocational >qualifications rather than an ability to perceive and learn. Putting it >another way, universities are places for getting a degree, not an education. >(I'll leave this track before I start getting political, as I know who I blame Surely the best thing is that prospective students should have a choice of courses some offering a route to programming via conventional languages, others via experimental/sounder languages. It should be made clear to the students what is on offer and the arguments both ways. The level of demand would dictate the balance between the two.