Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac:11874 comp.lsi:324 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!agate!enzyme.berkeley.edu!cswarren From: cswarren@enzyme.berkeley.edu (Warren Gish;133 Biochem;x3-9219) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.lsi Subject: Re: VLSI design tools Message-ID: <6801@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: 31 Jan 88 16:19:28 GMT References: <154@liutde.UUCP> <5751@eecae.UUCP> <1601@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> Sender: usenet@agate.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: cswarren@enzyme.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Warren Gish) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 25 In article <1601@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> buzz@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mahboud Zabetian) writes: >in article <154@liutde.UUCP>, markus@liutde.UUCP (Markus Kaipainen) says: >> Have anybody ported the University of Washington >> VLSI design tools - Magic - to Mac II? Is there > > >I use MAGIC on color Suns. I like it a lot, but I just wish that the mouse and >menus weren't so illogical and would work like like a mac mouse. At MW Expo, Jeff Deutsch was hanging out at the SuperMac/Levco booth to plug his TransSPICE(TM) program which can utilize from 1 to 20 Levco Translink transputers in a MacII. The user interface is currently command-line, but Jeff says he's working on a Mac-style interface. The word from a friend at a large S. Valley chip co. who demoed TransSPICE recently is that the program can handle larger circuits than can the software they use on Intel 386-based machines. Without a transputer, TransSPICE was only negligably faster on the MacII than on a 386-based machine; with a single transputer, it was 6X faster (on the circuit(s) tested). This speed is apparently most important for Monte Carlo simulations where up to 20 simulations can be carried out simultaneously (100X faster than a MacII). The transputers are not cheap, though. And although Jeff did not mention price, his program may not be cheap either. For more info, contact Jeff Deutsch at (415) 856-9168. TransSPICE is a trademark of Deutsch Research.