Xref: utzoo comp.misc:1874 misc.headlines:2339 misc.jobs.misc:1118 talk.rumors:1035 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!portal!cup.portal.com!Rick_R_Kitts From: Rick_R_Kitts@cup.portal.com Newsgroups: comp.misc,misc.headlines,misc.jobs.misc,talk.rumors Subject: Re: Doom and Gloom, as they say, revisited (computer market fai Message-ID: <3050@cup.portal.com> Date: 9 Feb 88 02:47:44 GMT References: <1177@polyslo.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 53 XPortal-User-Id: 1.1001.1582 In <1052@maynard.BSW.COM> campbell@maynard.BSW.COM (Larry Campbell) says: > [stuff deleted] > > 2) You completely ignore upgrades. Example: every company big enough > to need a mainframe probably had one by 1965. Did the mainframe > business die in 1965? Hardly. It's still probably, what, a > $50 billion a year industry, and going strong (despite all the > smug predictions of extinction by the PC geeks five or six > years ago). > Excuse me. I assume you did not read Mr. Bass' posting at all. Your first attempt at making a point (ignores upgrades) pretty much set the tone for your somewhat babbling discourse. The issue of upgrades was discussed in both of Mr. Bass' postings, and to some depth in the most recent. Again I assume you missed this 1/4 of the article. >People will continue to buy PCs because the old ones get obsolete. This >continues to be forced by two functions: > > 1) The manufacturers will cease to support them. No sane businessperson > will build their business on hardware that can't be repaired, quickly > and relatively cheaply. See the part of the article you missed for one point of view on the number of upgrades a company might purchase. > 2) Software marches on, and the old hardware is too small and slow to > run the new software. Try running OS/2, or Windows, or Microport > System V with DOS Merge, on an 8088-based machine. This is a kinda gray area. Does a secretary really need to multi-task and search for all occurences of the word 'the' in 58uSec? If I was paying out of my budget I'd probably say no. The attitude a manager has on this question may largely determine the number of upgrades that are purchased. >Now, it's true that we probably have seen the end of the boom years of the PC >industry, and it's a good thing, too. The dizzying growth and pell-mell >embracing of PC technology has permitted far too many shabby products and Wasn't this what he was trying to say all along? That the PC industry is headed for bad times? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rick_Kitts@cup.portal.com I don't have a cute saying down here. ...ihnp4!ptsfa!well!rkitts