Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!rochester!bbn!uwmcsd1!ig!agate!ucbvax!hplabs!decwrl!labrea!glacier!jbn From: jbn@glacier.STANFORD.EDU (John B. Nagle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Guidelines for virus authors Message-ID: <17301@glacier.STANFORD.EDU> Date: 8 Feb 88 17:05:54 GMT References: <8802072054.AA03747@jade.berkeley.edu> <8261@g.ms.uky.edu> Reply-To: jbn@glacier.UUCP (John B. Nagle) Organization: Stanford University Lines: 27 In article <8261@g.ms.uky.edu> sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey) writes: >I have never ever known of a major security bug that lasted long after >it's (sic) operation was widely publicized. I think he's right. It will cost billions to make personal computers virus-proof, and may take a whole new generation of machines, yet it will probably have to happen. Such an effort is not unprecedented. The reengineering of the AT&T Long Lines system required to make it blue-box proof was massive, took almost a decade, and cost hundreds of millions. The old system of tones on the voice circuits was replaced with a separate data network used to carry the control information between the toll offices. OS/2 is already virus-resistant to some degree, being a protected-mode operating system. When the Mac line gets memory-management units (there's a socket in the Mac II) Apple intends to go to a protected mode operating system (ref. interview with John Sculley, Computer Currents, Dec. 87.). Sun machines are already reasonably tight, running under UNIX in protected mode. DEC's VAXstations also have protection. In each case, the protection isn't perfect, but the essential parts are there and with some tightening up, each of these systems should be able to resist virus programs effectively. This leaves the Amiga out in the cold. Someone at Commodore had best be thinking very hard about this. John Nagle