Xref: utzoo comp.sys.mac:12567 comp.sys.ibm.pc:11795 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ucla-cs!cit-vax!oberon!eve.usc.edu!mlinar From: mlinar@eve.usc.edu (Mitch Mlinar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: A Solution to the Shareware Dilemma? Message-ID: <6973@oberon.USC.EDU> Date: 15 Feb 88 22:28:35 GMT References: <8502@sunybcs.UUCP> Sender: nobody@oberon.USC.EDU Reply-To: mlinar@eve.usc.edu (Mitch Mlinar) Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 60 In article <8502@sunybcs.UUCP> domino@sybil.UUCP (Michael Domino) writes: >As a programmer I have always agreed with the shareware philosohy: >give users a reasonably priced product, let them try it out, and, >if they find it useful, send the author a relatively small amount. >Cuts out the middleman, makes the software market a more dynamic >place, more responsive to the needs of users. OK. The problem is, >of course, that it doesn't work too well. It's just too damn hard >for the user of a shareware product to go through all the trouble of >addressing an envelope, writing a check, finding a stamp and then >remembering to drop the whole thing in a mailbox. The independent > > ............... > >The point of all this rehash is that it occured to me that what >shareware developers need is a way to make payment for their pro- >ducts just as easy and convenient as ordering from an ad or a >catalog...a co-op of some sort that would maintain the toll-free >line, MC and Visa accounts, so that users could just pick up their >phone, blurt out their account number and ease their consciences >with little effort. Members of this organization would receive >periodic payment with a statement, and maybe even a list of buyers >to notify their users of upgrades, new products, etc. Maybe this >organization could publish its own newsletter with that kind of >information...there would have to be a percentage deducted from the >payment to support the service, but 80 or 90% of something is a lot >better than 100% of nothing. How to remind users to call in their >payment? Create a standard piece of code that would put a notice >up x number of times each time the program is run, with the phone >number, and emphasize how easy it is and how much better you'll >feel by supporting such a worthwhile product. Make it humorous. Since mail does not seem to be getting through, I will post on this. Since I own my company (very small) which happens to sell software (not for IBM-PCs though), I agree that such a service would be a big boon. However, what you fail to realize is that marketing/advertisement accounts for somewhere nears 80% of the cost of product. This tends to bother some authors who feel they should get 50 to 80% of the cost, not the pretty much standard 10% (or less!). Another problem is capital investment: you need to have some money to advertise before you sell one disk - a minimum of 3 months for high-profile magazines or 6 months for lower profile. Don't expect any return during this time. Now, you give me a new product to sell, and it takes 3 months of $1000 ads (total for SMALL ads in various magazines) to sell your $30 program. And your program may not sell - so who is liable for the loss: you, this company you propose, or the "consortium" of authors where everyone shares the risk. I don't know how to solve all this, but I do know one thing for certain: only 1 in 15 of those programs will be a REAL success, and less than 1/3 would break even. So, although I like your idea, you would be hard pressed to find anyone to do this. I would, provided I could reject programs immediately or after a period of time with no break-even. I would also need to pay for ads, two phone answering people (to cover 16 hours of incoming calls that I experience now), and all the other things that go with it. Even 10% may be too large for such a low cost program. Any counter suggestions? -Mitch