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From: robertj@yale-zoo-suned..arpa (Rob Jellinghaus)
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Subject: Re: DataDesk 101 Keyboard Review & QuickKeys Questions
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Date: 4 Feb 88 00:48:15 GMT
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In article <11029@duke.cs.duke.edu> gleicher@duke.cs.duke.edu (Michael Gleicher) writes:
>3) QuickKeys (from what I've read) looks far superior to 101 Keys, but before
>       I lay out the $75, I have a few questions:
>
>       1) will it run under multi-finder ?

Yes, QuicKeys (as far as I can tell) is 100% Multifinder-compatible.
I recently got a free upgrade (to version 1.1) fixing some problems
which I had never noticed in version 1.0 :-)

>       2) under-multifinder will it switch between keysets?

Yes, you can create application-specific keysets that will change
when you switch applications (for instance, you could have clover-S
be defined as "Shut Down" in the Finder and as "Save" in Macwrite,
and the program will perform the correct action depending on which
application is frontmost).  You can also, of course, define universal
keys that work no matter which application you're in.  Application-
specific keys take precedence over general keys, which take precedence
over the program's usage.  For example: clover-S chooses Shadow in
MacWrite.  Setting clover-S to "Shut Down" as a universal key takes
precedence over the MacWrite usage.  However, if you define clover-S
as "Save" within MacWrite, clover-S will save within MacWrite.  It's
harder to describe than it is to do.

>       3) can you define the keys on the numeric keypad
>               (I'd like to have home and end work)
>          can you distinguish whether num-lock mode or not?

I've got an extended keyboard (from Apple) and darn near everything
on it can be changed.  The program differentiates between the keypad
and the numbers at the top of the keyboard.  It doesn't support num
lock mode, though.  (Nor scroll lock, although that doesn't have much
meaning on the Mac.)   I have changed the definitions of the page
up and page down and home and end and ins/del and |X> keys.  All
work as I have defined them.  (It's neat to shuffle through and close
windows with keystrokes...)

>       4) how much "drag" manipulation can you do.
>          could you make a "goto to end of file" key easily for
>          Word or ConcertWare?

Yes, this is easy.  There are predefined actions (called "Mousies")
for scrolling up or down a line, scrolling to the beginning or end
of a window, closing or opening a window, and more besides.  When
you define a key as a Mousie, all you do is make pressing the key
equivalent to clicking in the appropriate area of the window (for ex-
ample, I have the |X> key set to "Close"; whenever I press it, the
topmost window closes.  Neat!).

I love this QuicKeys deal.  About once a week I think of something
that it would be handy for, I pop into it and define the new key,
and bam, I'm working a bit more conveniently.  I can't live without
it anymore!

I don't know personally how well it works with the Datadesk, but
patch files are included with it (as well as predefined key layouts
for you to mess around with), and I trust CE Software.  My advice
(in case you hadn't gotten it yet):  Buy QuicKeys.

>Michael Lee Gleicher                   (-: If it looks like I'm wandering
>       Duke University                 (-:    around like I'm lost . . .
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