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From: jspear@afit-ab.arpa (Jon L. Spear)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: Smalltalk for the Mac SE?
Keywords: smalltalk mac macintosh se
Message-ID: <281@afit-ab.arpa>
Date: 9 Feb 88 04:57:27 GMT
References: <2834@fluke.COM>
Reply-To: jspear@afit-ab.arpa (Jon L. Spear)
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology; WPAFB, OH
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In article <2834@fluke.COM> jeff@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Stearns) writes:
>Is there a Smalltalk which:
>    - exists now
>    - runs on the Macintosh SE

From APDAlog V3, N1, Jan88, page 30, Smalltalk-80(TM) v.0.4 runs on Mac
plus, SE or II with at least 1MB RAM, hard disk recommended. It's based
on an early version of the current Xerox (nee ParcPlace) product, but is
currently unsupported. Rumor has it that Apple is working on a supported
version, but who knows... You get 4 ds floppies and a 94 page manual for
$75 + $1.13 shipping, but you must first join APDA ($20/yr, (206)251-6548).

Xerox's spinoff ParcPlace Systems offers three versions of Smalltalk-80
for the Mac, with support (if you are willing to pay for it). There are
two versions for the Mac Plus or SE (but run on the II), a stripped down
one for about $700, and a full developers package for $995. A version
optimized for the Mac II is $1295. Too rich for me, but ParcPlace will
tell you it is a bargain. If you are a Degree-Granting Educational
Institution, you can get the latter two for $99.50 or $129.50. All
require at least 2MB RAM. These are the definitive Smalltalk-80
environments with essentially the same features as and compatibility
with Smalltalk-80 for the Sun, Apollo, or HP workstations. I don't have
their blurb in front of me, but I think they claimed to be able to use
desk accessories and are even multifinder compatible. They are at
(415)859-1000.

I have no experience or connection with any of the above, but hope to
have seen one or two of them in the next few months. Oh, there is also
rumor that the Smalltalk/V people (with a popular Messy-DOS Smalltalk)
may be working on a Mac version.

- Jon Spear, jspear@afit-ab.arpa

With computers we can make millions, and soon billions of mistakes each second.