Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!steinmetz!ge-dab!codas!killer!elg From: elg@killer.UUCP (Eric Green) Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc Subject: Re: Making a living from creativity (was: Software copying) Message-ID: <3206@killer.UUCP> Date: 3 Feb 88 07:52:58 GMT References: <3313@sphinx.uchicago.edu> Organization: Bayou Telecommunications Lines: 57 in article <3313@sphinx.uchicago.edu>, cute@sphinx.uchicago.edu (John Robert Cavallino) says: > In article <162@octopus.UUCP> pete@octopus.UUCP (Pete Holzmann) writes: >>In article <6780@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> mwm@eris.UUCP (Mike (My watch has windows) Meyer) writes: >>>demonstrates the common fallacy of thinking that anything you can do >>>can be turned into a right: >> >>A 'right' is only a 'right' if a society deems it to be so. It is TRUE! > Whats-his-name (you know, the guy who wrote the Declaration of Independence) > must have been confused when he talked about "inalienable rights" and said that > it was "self-evident" that they existed. Glad we have you to clear that up for > us. Excuse me? It seems some people have gotten themselves deluded into believing that anything they do IS a right. The Declaration of Independence is not a law. Its value is purely historical. It has no relevance to our current form of government, which originated in the Constitution over 10 years later. Legally, the only "rights" guaranteed you are those in the Constitution and in the various laws which have been passed by Congress over the years (e.g., the Voting Rights Act, etc.). What society thinks is irrelevant, except insofar as it is reflected in legislative action. First of all: THERE IS NO RIGHT THAT SAYS THAT YOU MUST BE PAID FOR SERVICES RENDERED (e.g. for software that you have written). Such details must be explicitly written out into a contract to be binding. Contracts can and are enforced by law, and sometimes the courts can consider certain situations to contain an "implied" contract (e.g. if you eat in a restaurant, you are expected to pay for your meal). But contracts have no relation to the vague idea of "rights". There is no "right" to make a living, either. If you are hungry and miserable because you are an artist and nobody wants to buy your masterpieces, it is not your place to go storming the Capital with invective about imaginary "rights". In fact, when you get right down to it, there's not a helluva lot that the courts do consider to be a "right", and most of that applies only to the national government, not to the states and cities. So please, quit all this empty invective about "rights", calculated to make us all stand up and salute the American flag, hand over breast, and say 5 Pledge of Allegiances and singing fifteen Star Spangled Banner's. Please. I get tired of super-patriotic bull-cr*p calculated to make chest puff out in pride and mind go muddly with thoughts about how great our nation is. If you're going to argue about copyrights, argue from reality, not from some propoganda taught you in grade-school history classes (you know the ones I'm talking about -- all those history books that says the Commies are big mean people eaters, the Americans are the freeist and bestest people on earth, and so forth -- very common back during the 50's, which is probably when most of the people on this net grew up). -- Eric Lee Green elg@usl.CSNET Asimov Cocktail,n., A verbal bomb {cbosgd,ihnp4}!killer!elg detonated by the mention of any Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191 subject, resulting in an explosion Lafayette, LA 70509 of at least 5,000 words.