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From: csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Will X Windows be standard part
Message-ID: <14464@pyramid.pyramid.com>
Date: 6 Feb 88 18:22:23 GMT
References: <14140@pyramid.pyramid.com> <5400018@snail>
Reply-To: csg@pyramid.UUCP (Carl S. Gutekunst)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA
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In article <5400018@snail> carroll@snail.CS.UIUC.EDU writes:
>	I disagree. I have used both layers and SunView quite a bit, and
>SunView is far superior in both utility and power. Some of the reasons are:
>
> [Lists seven reasons why he doesn't like layers]

You're comparing current SunView with four-year-old layers. (Yes, I know you
are running SVR3. The SVR3 layers package is ancient and missing all the DMD
utilties. You want the SVR2 option tape.) All the reasons you listed except
for two (folding windows into icons, and closing the last shell in a window)
are either bugs/misfeatures long since fixed, or trivially easy to implement.

Toolplaces, for example, isn't provided in the standard layers package. Frank-
ly I never felt the need for it on the 630; but it would be useful on a 5620.
It would take me about 2 minutes to write a shell script to do it....

You did bring out an important point: support for layers is terrible. I could
not blame anyone who avoided it like the plague, unless they buy it in source,
or buy from a responsible vendor (not AT&T).

Rather than starting window wars :-), we can discuss this offline if you like.

<csg>