Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!topaz.rutgers.edu!ron From: ron@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ron Natalie) Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards Subject: Re: Why no trailers in network ifconfig? Keywords: trailers, network, ifconfig, vax, sun, bsd Message-ID: <18028@topaz.rutgers.edu> Date: 13 Feb 88 02:01:02 GMT References: <599@acornrc.UUCP> Organization: The Office of Mismanagement and Bean Counting Lines: 25 The reason they are turned off is that they were nonstandard and not all systems can handle them (this has changed, see later). They are a good idea in paged UNIX implemenations which are resigned to do at least one copy of data anyhow. They are not a good idea for other implementations, including most gateways as they do not copy the IP packet at all. They expect the IP header to be in the proper place and just diddle the local net headers and pass it to the output network driver. Trailers are now a standard and leaving the trailers flag turned on in later (standard conforming) systems should be OK. The system now checks while ARPing if the remote system wants to do trailers and uses them when the remote system likes, and avoids them otherwise. -Ron USER: We're having a problem with our gateway. ME: Really? What is it? USER: We just put up a Sun and now the gateway is printing Ethernet errors. ME: Hmm, sounds serious. What kind of errors? Interlan transmit register errors? USER: No, it was something about trailers. ME: Oh, was it by any chance "Trailers make me barf!"? USER: Oh yes, that's it!