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From: clewis@spectrix.UUCP (Chris R. Lewis)
Newsgroups: tor.news,ont.uucp
Subject: Re: news
Message-ID: <436@spectrix.UUCP>
Date: 10 Feb 88 22:50:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: spectrix.436
Posted: Wed Feb 10 17:50:25 1988
References: <984@maccs.UUCP> <1988Feb9.095822.9656@lsuc.uucp>
Reply-To: clewis@spectrix.UUCP (Chris R. Lewis)
Distribution: ont
Organization: Spectrix Microsystems Inc., Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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In article <1988Feb9.095822.9656@lsuc.uucp> dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) writes:
>In article <984@maccs.UUCP> dan@maccs.UUCP (Dan Trottier) writes:
>>The problem with "Don't store newsgroups that nobody is subscribed to" is
>>that downstream sites may want that newsgroup.
>
>That's easy -- just expire them in 2 days or so, by which
>time you can be sure they've been batched, even if not yet uucp'ed.

Quite true, except in the version of news *you're* running...

C-news, or B-news enhanced by my batcher program (eg: tmsoft, mnetor) or other
similar batch throttles will not necessarily have batched any given
article by a given time.  Just take a look at your statistics for queues -
the number given in the batch status line is the number of articles that
have not been batched at that point in time.  This could either be
that the downstream hasn't picked up it's stuff in so long that they're
using an undesirable amount of spool area, or your spool area has gotten
too full.  If one of those articles gets expired by the time the downstream's
batching gets to it (it doesn't talk to you for a long time, or your spool stays
close to the edge for a long time), that downstream won't see that article.

Standard B-news has no outgoing throttles: so the next time the sendbatch
program is invoked all outstanding articles will be packed.  Problem is,
what if you run out of space....  But, the two day force delete would
be okay in this case.

>P.S. check out tor.news.stats recent postings for some
>wild numbers. We've shipped out 30Mb over the past 3 days...

I've been watching your stats.  YIPES!
-- 
Chris Lewis, Spectrix Microsystems Inc,
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