Xref: utzoo sci.bio:866 soc.men:2509 soc.women:9103 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bbn!rochester!udel!gatech!mcnc!rti!xyzzy!throopw From: throopw@xyzzy.UUCP (Wayne A. Throop) Newsgroups: sci.bio,soc.men,soc.women Subject: Re: Rape: a genetic catastrophe Message-ID: <587@xyzzy.UUCP> Date: 29 Jan 88 17:45:27 GMT References: <517@gtx.com> <5129@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> <2201@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <3755@aw.sei.cmu.edu> <361@rruxa.UUCP> <5159@c <1932@bsu-cs.UUCP> <574@xyzzy.UUCP> <1966@bsu-cs.UUCP> Organization: Data General, RTP NC. Lines: 31 > dhesi@bsu-cs.UUCP (Rahul Dhesi) > Cannibalism in the absence of alternative mechanisms to feed oneself in > is perfectly consistent with the selfish gene hypothesis. Rape in the > absence of alternative mechanisms to propagate one's genes is equally > consistent with the selfish gene hypothesis. Of course this is true, but you seem to miss the point I was making, and that is that in each case, the explanation of the behavior is remarkably poor, since the actual behaviors we see are not well adapted to the hypothesized desired result. > What's interesting is the following question: Why are some people so > opposed to the hypothesis that rape reflects our genetic make-up? I don't doubt this for a minute. *Everything* humans do "reflects our genetic make-up" to some degree. I just doubt that things are as simple as "rape increases reproductive fitness... there, we understand it now." > I can understand people maintaining that this remains unproven, but I > can't understand their vehemently insisting that it's necessarily > false. Well, I haven't been "vehemently insisting" on anything. I just think that the proposed, oversimplified hypothesis is a remarkably poor one. -- "You think this is a trap, then?" the Count asked. "I think everything is a trap until proven otherwise," the Prince answered. "Which is why I'm still alive." --- from "The Princess Bride" by William Goldman -- Wayne Throop !mcnc!rti!xyzzy!throopw