Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!ll-xn!husc6!hao!gatech!mcnc!xanth!kent From: kent@xanth.cs.odu.edu (Kent Paul Dolan) Newsgroups: sci.bio Subject: Re: Rape: a genetic catastrophe Message-ID: <3891@xanth.cs.odu.edu> Date: 4 Feb 88 12:00:28 GMT References: <517@gtx.com> <5129@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> <2201@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> <1966@bsu-cs.UUCP> <373@rruxa.UUCP> <4371@watdcsu.waterloo.edu> Reply-To: kent@xanth.UUCP (Kent Paul Dolan) Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk Va. Lines: 46 I took soc.men and soc.women off the newsgroups line; people who bother to read and post in those two groups will waste each other's and the net's time to infinity injecting their sexual politics beliefs into every discussion, on every subject, barring reason from ever entering the discussion. Seeing all the political arguments in sci.bio, to the complete elimination of any competent biological inquiry, is rather revolting. It also amuses me endlessly to see rapists described as consciously acting to promote the cause of male supremacy. The rapists I have read of wouldn't even be capable of understanding the concept, much less of acting to the benefit of anyone but themselves. Enough; to the sociobiological point. Why is everyone assuming that there is even any chance that procreation mediated by rape would offer an increased chance of surviving progeny to the rapist? The human species has operated in family groups for as long as we can follow the evidence, presumably because the bonded pair has a superior chance of passing genes to surviving offspring. A female left to bear and nurture a child without the presence of the child's father has a limited chance of either surviving herself, or of raising the child to sexual maturity, as compared to a female who has the help and assistance of the male parent. It seems to me that over the duration of the human species, rape, if anything, would distract the male parent from the role of provider and protector, and thus would offer a genetic competitive disadvantage compared to pair bonding, and would be selected against. I offer as evidence that the instance of rapists in society is fairly small compared to the non-rapists, whereas it would be expected to be large if it were a trait promoting successful genetic survival, because the rapist (male) parent has the opportunity to pass on genes to many more offspring than the pair bonding male parent. Also missing from the discussion has been any consideration of rape in the aftermath of conquest, where it seems to provide the function of an extreme kind of exogamy, and has been documented repeatedly in history. This would (at first glance) seem to serve the biologically useful process of quickly mixing isolated reproductive groups, albeit at high cost in suffering on the part of the victims. Does this provide a genetic edge, and perhaps "explain" the survival of the rape impulse at all? Comments? Kent, the man from xanth.