Xref: utzoo sci.electronics:2073 rec.photo:1911 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!sunybcs!kitty!larry From: larry@kitty.UUCP (Larry Lippman) Newsgroups: sci.electronics,rec.photo Subject: Re: Homebuilt transmission densitometer? Summary: Design suggestions... Message-ID: <2397@kitty.UUCP> Date: 9 Feb 88 06:20:51 GMT References: <2659@dcatla.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, NY Lines: 72 In article <2659@dcatla.UUCP>, ittfb@dcatla.UUCP (Thomas F. Blakely) writes: > A handy tool around the Black & White darkroom these days is a > transmission densitometer. While relatively inexpensive ones are > available (ca. $200) it might be an interesting project to build > one. Has anyone had any experience along these lines? It should > be pretty straightforward, unless there's something I missed. > Since it's for monochrome, color sensitivity of the sensing element > (photodiode?) shouldn't matter. Here are a few suggestions: 1. You MUST use an incandescent white light source; for general purpose use, a single monochromatic light source such as an LED is unsuitable. The transmission spectrum of B&W film stock is not flat, and varies from manufacturer to manufacturer; consequently, the use of a single monochromatic light source is an invitation to trouble. 2. In order to achieve sufficient signal-to-noise ratio in measuring higher densities (< 10% T, > 1.0 absorbance), LED's will not provide sufficient luminous intensity with a photodiode or photovoltaic detector, anyhow. So, you really need an incandescent lamp. 3. The incandescent lamp MUST be powered from DC (use a 6 or 12 volt lamp), and MUST be regulated using a solid-state constant-current regulator. I cannot overemphasize the importance of having good regulation for the lamp supply. 4. You may wish to consider using fiber optics to direct the light source to the sensing head. 5. The calibration control for setting 100% T (0 absorbance) can either vary photodetector sensitivity or vary lamp current; some commercial instruments use the latter approach (I personally don't care for it, though). If you use a microprocessor, no potentiometer is necessary - just a switch to tell the uP to take a reference reading. 6. Calibration of a meter for % transmission is simple, because it is a linear relationship. If you want an absorbance readout, you will require a logarithmic scale; there are clever analog circuits for this, or you can do the conversion in a microprocessor. In this day and age, I recommend the latter. 7. I recommend a photovoltaic detector, but a photodiode will work - provided that it has decent visible light response. Forget about using a CdS photoresistive detector. A photomultiplier tube is used on most commercial densitometers, but this is probably too complex and frought with potential problems for a DIY project. 8. Use a Kodak or equivalent density wedge to verify operation of your completed densitometer. 9. Beware of ambient light interference resulting from poor optics design. > How about connecting the output to > your PC (everybody has one, don't they)? Not a bad idea - as long as you have some type of analog input board. You could then do the absorbance calculation (if you want to deal in absorbance units) on the PC. > How about hearing from > those of you with experience, or even ideas? This is the kind of stuff I have been designing for the past 18 years, so you now have the benefit of some of what I've learned The Hard Way. :-) <> Larry Lippman @ Recognition Research Corp., Clarence, New York <> UUCP: {allegra|ames|boulder|decvax|rutgers|watmath}!sunybcs!kitty!larry <> VOICE: 716/688-1231 {hplabs|ihnp4|mtune|utzoo|uunet}!/ <> FAX: 716/741-9635 {G1,G2,G3 modes} "Have you hugged your cat today?"