Xref: utzoo rec.photo:1919 sci.electronics:2078 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!clyde!rutgers!ames!sgi!donl From: donl@foist Newsgroups: rec.photo,sci.electronics Subject: Re: Homebuilt transmission densitometer? Summary: Color analyzers as densitometers Message-ID: <10720@sgi.SGI.COM> Date: 10 Feb 88 04:30:43 GMT References: <2659@dcatla.UUCP> <11237@shemp.UCLA.EDU> Sender: daemon@sgi.SGI.COM Distribution: na Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc, Mountain View, CA Lines: 49 In article <11237@shemp.UCLA.EDU>, korfhage@CS.UCLA.EDU writes: > Recently I was wondering about using my color meter as a transmission > densitomiter. I have the low end Beseler model, and it uses a photomultiplier, > seems quite sensitive and has a very small metering aperature. I recently bought a used Cosar Mornick color analyzer to reduce testing in color printing. I was quite excited that it had a density scale on it as well as the time and filtration scales, though i am not yet sure how accurate it is. The density scale is basically just the log of the time scale, and color filtration numbers are (supposed to be) density x 100. If the density scale were not present, the log of the exposure time scale would do fine. > The general idea, it seems to me, is to compare the unknown density with > some known references until you find a match, or until you get close enough > that you can make a good estimate. The question is how do you get your > reference? A calibrated Kodak step wedge runs about $81 at the local store, > and I didn't care to spend this much money on a whim. An uncalibrated wedge is > less (about $45, as I recall), but then you need to find a densitomiter you > can use to calibrate it. [...] There are different sizes of Kodak step tablets; the #2 is about 3/4 inch wide, and about 5 inches long. Mine is uncalibrated, and i think it was about $23. I've mounted one of these in a sheet of 4x5 film so that i can project it when i want, which makes for quick paper-testing exposures. > If anybody sees anything wrong with this scheme, I would like to know. > It would not be as accurate as a real densitomiter, but it would seem like > an inexpensive way to figure out 0.1 above film base + fog, or whatever, > with accuracy good enough for a hobbyist. I think there is a tendency to be too worried about how accurate the readings are in this sort of thing. I suspect that shutter and aperture variations, processing variations, metering problems, differing amounts of flare, light falloff in the enlarger, etc. all add up to a much larger variation than the inaccuracy of using an inexpensive meter as a densitometer. Reasonable tolerances suggested by the master are .09 to .11 for film speed, which is 10%, which should be pretty easy to meet. If you can show that the meter you are using doubles and halves pretty accuratly, the density readings you obtain with it should be more than adequate. I have found the uncalibrated step tablet to be accurate enough for my needs; i have found steps that are a little high or low using a rather inexpensive ($75) black-and-white enlarging meter as densitometer, but the overall slope is plenty close. - donl {sun,pyramid,adobe,decwrl,ucbvax,allegra,research}!sgi!donl donl@sgi.com