Xref: utzoo talk.politics.misc:7592 alt.flame:1714 Path: utzoo!hoptoad!ptsfa!ames!ll-xn!mit-eddie!mit-amt!mit-caf!andrew From: andrew@mit-caf.UUCP (Joe Bigelow) Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.flame Subject: Re: Historical and Geographic inaccuracies. Message-ID: <777@mit-caf.UUCP> Date: 24 Feb 88 15:58:21 GMT References: <792@athos.rutgers.edu> <9612@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP> <3096@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: andrew@mit-caf.UUCP (Joe Bigelow) Organization: Microsystems Technology Laboratory, MIT Lines: 63 In article <3096@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> lazarus@athena.mit.edu (Michael Friedman) writes: > >I fully agree. Steve Ardron is either appallingly misinformed or just >plain appalling. > >Here I disagree. They are Americans and there should not be any place >on Earth that an American cannot go to in reasonable safety. > >Yes, well the reason we have servicemen is to protect asinine >civilians. If an American wants to go to Lebanon he should be able to >do so knowing that if he is kidnapped he will be rescued or his >murders will pay a very high price. > >These are the official opinions Mike Friedman >of my organization. So, TOUGH!! And what narrow minded organization is that? Your posting would be amusing if it didn't address a serious subject. What right do Americans have to go anywhere? How can we balance our strength with our commitments when we might need to use strength anywhere on the globe? The world is not an American playground. There is a difference between isolationism, self-determination, and intelligent foreign policy. Be glad you have the freedom to travel. But, when you travel, you take risks. If you know that there is a good chance you will be endangered, why should your life be insured by the military, by our boys risking their lives, by millions and billions of dollars of hardware? Fuck 'em! Appreciate the freedom to take chances and maybe be a fool. How about those Republican candidates asking for private contributions for the contras? Foreign policy in the hands of wealthy Americans. ..I can see it now...in France...What is the official American policy on Chile (for example)...Well, the administration want to give them aid, Congress says no, Donald Trump is supplying a mercenary force of ten thousand, and the Democratic party is raising funds for the workers party...Oh..I see...Umhhh...well...well...Does the Soviet Union need an ally, I least we know what were getting with them? A plea to sane Americans! Send contributions to help the Sandinistas maintain control, feed the people and destroy the evil contras....The funny thing is Americans are down their helping the Nicaraguan people. But, I am wrong, it is not funny, it is the decent thing to do. So, this has been long and boring but so far I have not flamed you. You are a simpleton, a threat to our good land, a provoker of war and death. You would piss in the rotted eye sockets of your own dead wife, if you found her to be a liberal. To make up for your small manhood, you embrace greed, power, and hate. I hope you live long enough to be tortured by your own philosophy. I hope they send you into Lebanon to rescue fools and you are caught, kept alive by machines and tortured by blood sucking worms, leeches, screws in your brain and glass rods shoved up your pecker! You've been a good audience. Joe, the madman, Bigelow