Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!hao!gatech!hubcap!ncrcae!ncr-sd!hp-sdd!hplabs!ucbvax!BROWNVM.BITNET!ST401843 From: ST401843@BROWNVM.BITNET Newsgroups: comp.ai.digest Subject: Re:Fuzzy Logic vs. Probability Theory Message-ID: <8802210846.AA02229@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> Date: 20 Feb 88 17:27:36 GMT Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 41 Approved: ailist@kl.sri.com Here is my two bits about fuzzy logic: Richard Golden writes: >...Rational selection in this case meaning consistency with the classic >deductive/symbolic logic - boolean algebra... But here's the rub! In Boolean Algebra you have clear cut True or False truth values.In Crisp Set Theory (to a subclass of which theory Boolean Algebra is isomorphic) you have clear cut "x belongs A" relationships. Write this as B(x,A)=1 , where x is an element, A is a set and B(.,A) takes values (for "belongs" and 0 for "not belongs". In other words B(.,A) is the "belongingness" function of A. In Fuzzy Set Theory on the other hand, B(.,A) can take any value between 0 and 1. There are no clear cut answers to questions such as: "does a person 5 ft. 10 in. tall belong to the set of tall persons?". Cisp Set Theory is what we traditionally call Set Theory. It is a subset of Fuzzy Set Theory, in that in CST B can take only the extreme values 0 and 1. Of course in all of FST we use the reasoning, syllogisms etc. of the Boolean Algebra. I don't know if anyone does Fuzzy Mathematics. In FM, things such as reasoning by Reductio ad Absurdum would not be valid. Why? Well, in RaA we usually want to prove something for x, call it P(x). And we begin by saying: "assume NOT P(x)..." But in FST P(x) and NOT P(x) are just two of uncountably many possibilities. But maybe ther is a Fuzzy generalization to RaA. Does anyone know? Anyways, I think FST is still an alternative way to reasoning about uncertain events, different from Probability Theory. In fact there has been work done on Fuzzy Probability, postulating fuzzy probability measures. I did not have time to check before I send this, but I suppose they would drop things like the countable additivity hypothesis. And classical PT is by no means the only way to reason about uncertain events- see von Mises and deFinneti, among others. One last observation. I do not want to make much of it, but is it not remarkable that FST, an alternative to the Aristotelian logic, was invented by Zadeh, an Indian? Thanasis Kehagias