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From: ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Re: Some beginner's questions & some objects
Message-ID: <5327@well.UUCP>
Date: 28 Feb 88 04:05:18 GMT
References: <612INFO@NDSUVM1> <618UD140469@NDSUVM1>
Reply-To: ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab)
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Summary: I've looked at the stuff...

In article <618UD140469@NDSUVM1> Scott Udell writes:
>I thought readers of comp.graphics really wanted more object postings, but if
>I'm wrong I won't send the rest of the files.  Please let me know what you'd
>like--if you'd prefer, I can send the stuff out over a period of weeks
>(although it would take a long time to get a complete file for decoding).  It
>will not be easy for me to send out individual objects or even sets of objects
>(other than the ones I mentioned in my article) because I have limited on-line
>storage and only a 1200baud uplink to my accout.  Please let me know your
>preferences.
>
	I grabbed the objects you sent, and after writing an extremely
disgusting conversion program, got them into VideoScape 3D format, and
looked at them.  For those who didn't bother, here's what they were:

bigpyras:
	A couple of pyramids on rectangular slabs.

city1:
	An arrangement of buildings.  Those with object editors may be able
	to pick out stuff they like.

hudbldg:
	A semi-oval "building" with a notch cut through the middle.

inset2, insets:
	Two of the same pair of objects, located at different positions in
	space.  Their profile looks something like this (sideways):
	___   _____________
	|__===____________|

oval:
	Extruded oval.

pentagon:
	Pentagonal prism.

pointop:
	Rectangular prism with a pyramid on top.

tallgrp:
	Four longish rectangular prisms arranged in an "office block"
	arrangement.

twotri:
	A pair of three triangular prisms of differing sizes stacked on top
	of each other, smallest on top (best way to verbally describe it).

van2, van3, van4, van5, van6, vanilla:
	Rectangular pyramids of differing sizes and locations in space.

	If you load all these up at once, you get a semi-reasonable city.
Why it was split up into several seperate files, I don't know.  Perhaps the
individual objects have different colors?  No color information was in the
files.  BTW, it didn't look like San Francisco to me.

	Judging from the way the object polygons and points were arranged,
I'd say that most of them were lathed out.  In other words, most of the
objects were very simple, and could be generated using any self-respecting
object editor.

	I now have the basis for a city, which I can hack around, lay
streets down, put windows in the building, etc.

	I don't know whether or not other readers of this newsgroup would be
interested in the remainder of the objects you have.  Judging from the list
in your first posting, I'd say that most of them are relatively simple and
wouldn't bother.  However, if the shuttle or Enterprise model are any good,
I wouldn't mind seeing them.

	Does CAD-3D allow you to dump objects in ASCII format?  If so, I can
borrow an ST, dump the objects, port them over to my Amiga, and use this
sleazy program I hacked up to convert them into VideoScape, which I can edit
from there.

	I'd hold off on sending them out for a week or so, and wait to see
what the Net response is like.  What you've sent so far is, by comparison,
primitive, and people may scoff at you (don't let this bother you, though;
it's The Way of The Net).  People may be willing to sit through the shuttle
or Enterprise, though...

	I don't know; it's a judgement call.  Sit back and see what opinion
forms.

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