Xref: utzoo comp.misc:1944 misc.headlines:2399 misc.jobs.misc:1322 talk.rumors:1070 Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!watcgl!jjboritz From: jjboritz@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Jim Boritz) Newsgroups: comp.misc,misc.headlines,misc.jobs.misc,talk.rumors Subject: Re: Doom and Gloom, Reply to David Vangerov Message-ID: <3320@watcgl.waterloo.edu> Date: 22 Feb 88 09:03:46 GMT References: <1177@polyslo.UUCP> <2197@isis.UUCP> <1902@saturn.ucsc.edu> <1224@polyslo.UUCP> Reply-To: jjboritz@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Jim Boritz) Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 53 In article <1224@polyslo.UUCP> jbass@polyslo.UUCP (John L Bass) writes: > > A technical product doesn't create it's own market need. >People need a use for the product. Consider that VCR's saturated >this fall at 37% of households (about 30 million homes). Sure they >will continue to sell ... just much more slowly. Maybe the total >market size in 10 years will grow to 60% or more .... maybe VCR's >will become obsolete like reel-to-reel tapes before then? > > What is so compelling about a PC at $1,000 that would make it more >attractive to most US households than a VCR at $225. > >Have Fun, >John Bass >DMS Design I have read most of the postings on this topic although I have missed a couple. Most of the questions I have seen have been a result of not reading past the line you disagree with. I hope my questions are new. There is a great deal of talk about the estimated market size. Especially in comparisson to VCR's. Unfortunately most companies do not provide each of their employees with a VCR. In addition, I am not likely to see someone with a VCR at home, being given one at work (i.e. A bad way of saying that a person may have a machine at work and at home as well). I have the impression that the number of companies that provide one computer for 50 employees is about the same as the number that provide a one to one ratio. How about comparing the computer to the telephone? In some ways it is similar to the computer market. Yes it is also different, but so is the VCR. I may have a telephone at work and a telephone at home, and a phone for the kids. It is highly unlikely that they will each be of the same capability or expense. Another issue is the number of small market segments. On its own, a small market segment can be discounted, because its size is unimportant in relation to other larger values. However, the existence of many small markets adds up. Would these not make up a big enough population segment to alter your figures? I am of the belief that that the market has to slow down somewhere, it is not infinite, and I hope most people agree with this. However, your predictions of possilble 50-60 percent decreases seem much to severe. They paint the picture in black and white. There seems to be an assumption that after 20 million PC's get sold (or any other figure you may choose) the market is going to stop dead in its tracks and switch over from a first time market to a replacement market overnight. I doubt that this is the case. Is there any way to account for the transition period? Just curious. -- Jim Boritz jjboritz@watcgl.waterloo.edu Computer Graphics Lab University of Waterloo {allegra,utai,clyde}!watmath!watcgl!jjboritz