Xref: utzoo comp.misc:2013 can.jobs:185 ont.jobs:323 Path: utzoo!utgpu!bnr-vpa!bnr-di!daniel From: daniel@bnr-di.UUCP (Daniel Zlatin) Newsgroups: comp.misc,can.jobs,ont.jobs Subject: Re: Software Industry in Canada -- general remarks and questions Summary: Pointers to where the Canadian software industry may be hiding Message-ID: <108@bnr-di.UUCP> Date: 28 Feb 88 19:34:10 GMT References: <5358@watdragon.waterloo.edu> Distribution: comp Organization: DI, Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Ont. Lines: 46 In article <5358@watdragon.waterloo.edu>, kmgopinathan@violet.waterloo.edu (Krishna Gopinathan) writes: > I was under the impression that *very* little software development goes > on in Canada ( :^) Canada exports lumber and imports high-tech. :-) ) .... > .... Would > you say that today it has any significant impact on the Canadian economy? > Does the software industry in Canada consist more of multinationals (guess > who??) or Canadian-owned companies? I don't know what the percentages are, but I would certainly say that software development has a significant impact on the Canadian economy. In particular, I think you have to realize that much software development goes out packaged inside products that aren't perceived as "software". Two examples that I can point at (and I'm sure there are lots more) are: 1) Telephone switches produced by Northern Telecom and sold throughout the world (what can I say -- I'm biased, since BNR does the R&D for those switches....) contain more than 5 million lines of code (can you even *conceive* of that amount?). Although it is called a telephone switch, or a PBX, or whatever, and looks like hardware, I think that the costs in developing it are divided about 50-50 between software and hardware. 2) Flight simulators made by CAE Electronics. These also are perceived to be "hardware", but again, must (by their very nature) contain scads of software created for the specific purpose of controlling the complex hardware necessary to simulate the feeling of flight. Of course on top of this there is a lot of software developed "in-house" by many companies for more mundane applications. And don't overlook the software produced by companies such as Spar Aerospace, Develcon, MacDonald Dettwiler, Microtel Pacific, SED Systems, Bristol Aerospace, etc., etc.... Most of this software would (once again) be hidden inside products or projects that are not immediately identifiable as bearers of software. If the question was raised in addressing the area of "meta-software" :-) (software that helps us produce other software: compilers, operating systems, editors, CASE tools, etc., etc.) which are then sold in-and-of-themselves as products, I'm not sure how Canada would rank. But we certainly produce a lot that is not quite as visible as these off-the-shelf software products. Daniel Zlatin Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada best path: DANIEL@BNR.BITNET second best path: ...utzoo!bnr-vpa!bnr-di!daniel