Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!labrea!aurora!eos!ames!elroy!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!woody From: woody@tybalt.caltech.edu (William Edward Woody) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: copyrights (was: Shareware? Hah!) Message-ID: <5595@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu> Date: 29 Feb 88 03:03:21 GMT References: <4815@ihlpg.ATT.COM> <3343@killer.UUCP> <2608@gryphon.CTS.COM> <333@esquire.UUCP> <366@sas.UUCP> Sender: news@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu Reply-To: woody@tybalt.caltech.edu.UUCP (William Edward Woody) Organization: California Institute of Technology Lines: 31 In article <366@sas.UUCP> bts@sas.UUCP (Brian T. Schellenberger) writes: >1. I am not sure whether (c) is really a valid substitute for C-in-a-circle, > so this may be a good reason to use ``Copyright (c) 1988 . . .'' No, (c) [open-paren, lower-case 'c', close-paren] is not a suitable substitute for (c) [lower-case 'c' in a circle]. The reason why in the U.S. that you can get away with 'Copyright (c) 1987 FooBar Inc.' [where (c) is open-paren 'c' close-paren] is because of the keyword 'Copyright'. I don't believe that this is good overseas. >2. Since there is no penalty for not sending in the copies (unless, as the > quote says later, specifically asked to by the Registar of Copyrights), > there is no real reason to bother. Perhaps a lawyer could tell use why > they bother making something ``illegal'' but giving it no penalty. Because unless you register it with the Registrar of Copyrights, it is d*mned near impossible to enforce your copyright. The registrar simply time-stamps and stores a copy of your written work so when you go to court claiming I stole your work, you can hold up an official document from the registrar saying "see, I did indeed do this in May of 1987, but you claim to have done yours in December. Gotcha!" You _can_ alternatly mail yourself a copy of your written work, and store the _unopened_ envelope in a safe place, but this is not quite prefered as it's easy to fake an appropriately timestamped envelope. (Steam open, alter work, steam close). Of course, I'm not a lawyer, but I got all sorts of 'Lawyer jokes' out of my SS classes (where I slept through all this material ;-). - William Edward Woody woody@tybalt.caltech.edu (Mac>][n&&/|\)&&(MacII>AT) Disclamer: I haven't the foggiest idea what I'm talking about...