Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!decwrl!hplabs!hplabsz!taylor From: kurt@tc.FLUKE.COM (Kurt Guntheroth) Newsgroups: comp.society Subject: Re: Computers and the Stock Exchange Message-ID: <1587@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM> Date: 19 Feb 88 01:13:19 GMT Sender: taylor@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA Lines: 45 Approved: taylor@hplabs Frank Adams writes: I would like to take this opportunity to combat the myth that program trading was responsible for the stock market crash. The biggest cause of the crash...is the practice of..."portfolio insurance". Both these names are symptoms of the same problem. Big institutions can transact a great deal of business suddenly by trading stocks, options, futures, and other financial instruments with computers. The price of a financial instrument (say a share of stock) is based on the market's perception of the financial health of the underlying company plus the market's perception of the financial health of the general marketplace. As this perception changes gradually with time, the price of the share changes. At any given moment, shares of a stock go for a particular price, and the market makers keep an inventory of that stock to sell at that price. When orders come in at a reasonable rate, for individual stocks, this all works pretty well. When a computer trade dumps a whole bunch of stocks on the market, individual market makers don't see the entire trade right away. Even though the emergence of a bunch of shares for sale indicate a change in the perception of the marketplace, this information is hidden from the individual market makers, who buy up shares of stock AT THE PRE-PROGRAM PRICE. Within a few minutes, the traders notice the sudden increase in selling volume and decline in broad indices. By then it is too late. Shares have already changed hands at "too high" a price. Of course the human-assisted part of the program is to set the trade in motion when things are busy, or when a period of upward motion will mask the program trade's effect for awhile. What has happened is that the trading system is too efficient. The trading system runs faster than the trader's ability to keep up with the trades and set prices accordingly. This imbalance in the system causes a sort of ringing; faster-and-higher-than-expected rises and falls in price. If the system becomes unstable, you get 500 point down days. Eliminating program trading practices, whether it is program stock transactions or futures transactions would partially rebalance the system. Slowing order entry would slow the system down to the point where the human market makers could set the price effectively. People who say program trading is the cause of the crash probably are misinformed as to the nomenclature, but I think they are right that it is the computerized trading system that permits the disaster to happen. Kurt