Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bbn!uwmcsd1!ig!agate!ucbvax!UREGINA1.BITNET!CRONEJP
From: CRONEJP@UREGINA1.BITNET (Jonathan Crone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Lattice Bug???
Message-ID: <8802141749.AA02432@jade.berkeley.edu>
Date: 14 Feb 88 06:53:23 GMT
Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU
Lines: 246

A friend of mine is having a fun time with something in Lattice,
and is curious about what people on here think of this....
he doesn't have a modem so he can't contact the Lattice BBS
so I agreed to post this for him....

This message consists of the C code which generates the crash,
along with UUencoded code of the bug, the LNK file.

Jonathan Crone.....

I have a Sig file at the bottom to confirm full receipt....



Here is the .LNK file....

FROM LIB:c.o+Builtin_Bug.o
TO Builtin_Bug
LIB LIB:lc.lib+LIB:amiga.lib
MAP Builtin_Bug.map



/* Builtin_Bug.c    by Wayne Hogue, Regina, Sask. Canada */

/* I have found a problem with Lattice C Version 4.00.
   The problem occurs when using the builtin functions and strlen.
   If an integer is set to the length of a string and then nothing else
   is done with the integer, a crash will occur if the integer is used in
   an  IF statement. One way to correct this is to increment the integer
   before executing the IF statement. Another way is to do a printf before
   doing the IF statement.
   The program was compiled using: lc -L Builtin_Bug
*/

#include "string.h"

char MyString[] = { "This is a test string." };

void main()
{
int i;

   i = strlen(&MyString[0]);
   i++;  /* must do something here with integer to prevent crash */
   if ( i > 0 )
      printf("This IF statement will be executed successfully.\n");

   i = strlen(&MyString[0]);
   printf("Doing a printf here will prevent a crash\n");
   if ( i > 0 )
      printf("String length = %d\n",i);

   i = strlen(&MyString[0]);
   if ( i > 0 )
      printf("A crash will occur when doing this IF statement.\n");
}





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