Xref: utzoo comp.sys.amiga:14913 comp.sys.misc:1224 comp.sys.ibm.pc:12344 comp.sys.mac:13134 comp.sys.atari.st:7780 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!ptsfa!hoptoad!unisoft!gethen!bdt!david From: david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.atari.st Subject: Re: Copyright notices (was: Shareware? Hah!) Message-ID: <147@bdt.UUCP> Date: 23 Feb 88 16:03:10 GMT References: <4815@ihlpg.ATT.COM> <3343@killer.UUCP> <2608@gryphon.CTS.COM> <333@esquire.UUCP> <22977@brunix.UUCP> <21023@bbn.COM> Reply-To: david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer) Organization: Beckemeyer Development Tools, Oakland, CA Lines: 22 Copyright notice or no copyright notice, in my experience it's very difficult to enforce outside the US and Canada. There was a company in Germany that started to produce MT C-Shell with their own manual, diskettes, and packaging. German authorities informed me that this is perfectly *legal* in Germany, becuase you can't copyright anything but "works of art"; and software isn't in this category. The only illegal act would be if they were claiming they were selling "original" factory goods. As long as they say they are selling copies, it's legal in Germany. Even if they are breaking the law, all we could do is attempt to get a court order to force them to stop selling. The best solution turned out to be getting a real legit. distributor in Germany; and let the competition of a supported product for less money shut them down (which it did, I think). I don't know if the legal issues above are "correct", but that's what happened to us. -- David Beckemeyer | "To understand ranch lingo all yuh Beckemeyer Development Tools | have to do is to know in advance what 478 Santa Clara Ave, Oakland, CA 94610 | the other feller means an' then pay UUCP: ...!ihnp4!hoptoad!bdt!david | no attention to what he says"