Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!rutgers!mtune!codas!killer!elg From: elg@killer.UUCP (Eric Green) Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm Subject: Re: Hdwe repair help Message-ID: <3317@killer.UUCP> Date: 15 Feb 88 06:46:17 GMT References: <337@dalcsug.UUCP> Distribution: na Organization: Bayou Telecommunications Lines: 36 in article <337@dalcsug.UUCP>, euloth@dalcsug.UUCP (George Seto) says: > I am posting this for a friend who has no access to the net. > > In the RTC C-Link interface, there are three IC's. They have had the > part numbers sandpapered off. HE is trying to repair it and needs to > know what the chips are. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance. The big chip is either a 6820 or a 6821. I bet 6821 (pinouts are identical between the two, fanouts are different from the i/o port). It's the one that's most probably gone. The TTL closest to the edge connector is a open-collector high-voltage buffer that most probably is still good unless your friend really fried things. I forget the exact number, alas, it's been awhile. I suspect either a 7407 or its non-inverting mate. Finally, the TTL closest to the computer is that old standby, the 74LS30, the 8-input NAND gate used so often in these "transparent" interface thingies. A long long time ago, right after RTC declared bankruptcy and went under, I blew up my computer with that "#$"$% stock Commodore power supply, C-LINK included (took $40 worth of chips to rebuild everything... practically every MOS chip in the entire computer was fried to smithereens). I had to do it the hard way... by looking at what lines went where (stripping the board helps), and then matching it against the TTL databook. The 74LS30 was a piece of cake, it has a pinout that's singularly distinctive (8 inputs, 1 output? sheesh!). The idiots thinking that filing the number off of it was a deterrent were either brain dead or just weren't thinking... I suspect the former, considering that RTC went under. No wonder. As for the big chip, what the hell could it be besides a PIA or VIA or CIA? It's easy enough to tell the difference... a PIA has 3 chip selects, a VIA two, a CIA only 1. Sheesh. Anyhow, pinouts matched with a PIA. Case closed, mystery solved. Those people at RTC musta had noodles for brains, because I make no bones about being software, not hardware, and if even I could figure it out... -- Eric Lee Green elg@usl.CSNET Asimov Cocktail,n., A verbal bomb {cbosgd,ihnp4}!killer!elg detonated by the mention of any Snail Mail P.O. Box 92191 subject, resulting in an explosion Lafayette, LA 70509 of at least 5,000 words.