Path: utzoo!utgpu!water!watmath!221.162.fido!Geoffrey_Welsh From: 221.162.fido!Geoffrey_Welsh@watmath.waterloo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc Subject: Re: RLL on a ST-225 Message-ID: <17138@watmath.waterloo.edu> Date: 26 Feb 88 18:16:29 GMT Sender: ugate@watmath.waterloo.edu Lines: 31 > From: davidsen@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP (William E. Davidsen Jr) > Message-ID: <9692@steinmetz.steinmetz.UUCP> > Date: 25 Feb 88 21:13:30 GMT > BTW: MFM is just a term used for one type of RLL compression, I believe > RLL-0,2 but please don't quote me. Back in about 1978 floppies made the > change from "single density" to "double density" using this newfangled > thing "MFM recording. There is another RLL being tested which gives 100% I'm no expert, especially on RLL, but I think you've explained it well. The 'single-density' floppies used "FM" formats, which included a clock bit and a data bit to make sure that the controller wouldn't lose sync. MFM is "self-clocking", so it packs more data without actually increasing the number of flux changes per unit distance. Some manufacturers decided to use GCR (group code record) in stead of MFM. This reduced overhead from FM's 50% clock bits to 20% (using 5/4 GCR encoding). I don't have the slightest clue what MFM overhead is, nor what RLL overhead is. The "new RLL" is called ERLL (extended RLL? enhanced RLL?), and promises to double the capacity of some drives. What I do not understand is how RLL can damage a drive; I have heard from many sources that using an RLL controller on a drive than can't handle it will leave you with a pile of junk. If indeed the problem is simply one of the timing being off and causing read errors in the controller, one ought to be able to reformat with a standard controller... Geoff ( watmath!fido!221/171!izot ) --- ConfMail V3.31 * Origin: The Waterloo Window: WOC's out there? (1:221/171)