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From: kateley@apple.UUCP (Jim Kateley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: A/UX cost
Message-ID: <7391@apple.UUCP>
Date: 14 Feb 88 17:55:39 GMT
References: <2489@tekig4.TEK.COM> <3600018@iuvax> <6982@agate.BERKELEY.EDU>
Reply-To: kateley@apple.UUCP (Jim Kateley)
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA
Lines: 68
Keywords: toolbox features, UN*X gurus, NeXT, bad marketing, Ralph goes to lunch

In article <6982@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> cswarren@enzyme.berkeley.edu.UUCP (Warren Gish) writes:
>
>Here are a few features of Mac toolbox support under the current version
>of A/UX that potential buyers should be interested in knowing:
>
>	(1) Mac applications can not print
>	(2) only a single Mac application can run at a time
>	(3) no color support for Mac applications under A/UX
>	(4) file transfers between an A/UX disk partition and
>	    a MacOS partition must be made thru an MFS floppy
>	    disk intermediary
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, not if you have Ethertalk and NCSA telnet.  Stuffit 1.31 and
binhex 4.0 run under A/UX, so you can stuff or binhex your files (since
NCSA telnet will only xfer data fork files), then transfer them over with
the FTP stuff in telnet..then unstuff or unbinhex them.... this is
assuming that you have a MacII with A/UX and another Mac that can
talk to it over ethernet.

>	(5) Apple estimates only about 1% or less of the current MacOS
>	    applications will run under A/UX in their present form
>	    (although the changes necessary for A/UX toolbox-compatibility
>	    are said to be quite small)
>	(6) extra hardware must be purchased in order to use LocalTalk
>	    for printing on a LaserWriter or other communications
>
>Also, the MacII can not be configured to automatically boot A/UX
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Huh?  The SASH application is more than happy to start A/UX up for you
automatically, just make it the startup application, then configure it
to automatically boot...

>when powered on -- but maybe there will be a MacOS CDEV+INIT sometime
>in the future that will automatically boot A/UX after the MacOS comes up?
>The power switch on the MacII will require that the unit be physically
>turned back on after an interruption of AC power, unless (I'm guessing)
>the power-on switch is taped down.
>
>According to MacWeek, some of the toolbox deficiencies (1-4?) are scheduled
>to be fixed this summer.  Until then, it appears to me that the current
>release of the A/UX toolbox is really to allow developers to prepare for
>a summer A/UX marketing fest.
>
>Are there any UN*X gurus out there that can tell us what A/UX,
>with its System V Release 2-compatibility, lacks in comparison
>to what NeXT is rumored to have in its System V Release 3?
>Isn't Release 3 what AT&T is trying to standardize the world upon?
>
>Hey, Apple!  Say it ain't so, that all us MacII owners that already
>bought 5 MB RAM and an 80 MB disk don't have to buy it all again just
>to get A/UX.  @#%&!
>
>Warren Gish
>IS&T
>Evans Hall
>Berkeley, CA 94720
>cswarren@violet.berkeley.edu


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