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From: benoni@ssc-vax.UUCP (Charles L Ditzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: A Few Good Rumors...
Keywords: A/UX Unix FullWriter
Message-ID: <1690@ssc-vax.UUCP>
Date: 20 Feb 88 04:33:45 GMT
References: <1406@csib.csi.UUCP> <1575@uhccux.UUCP> <330@esquire.UUCP> <16937@think.UUCP>
Organization: Boeing Aerospace Corp., Seattle WA
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In article <16937@think.UUCP>, ephraim@think.COM (ephraim vishniac) writes:
> Yes. My boss has Interleaf on his Mac II.  I've got it here on my Sun,
> too, and it drives me nuts in both implementations.  Can you say
Actually, I use interleaf on an Apollo...i find it useful.  On a 1600x1280
screen it would be even better.  Having looked at Frame on a Sun, both
still are much better than Pagemaker for documentation. Frame should not
even be compared to Pagemaker.
> "random menu structure"?  Why is it that menus with many of the
> same commands have them in different orders, or even in different
> sub-menus?  Interleaf (or "Interloss" as one of my co-workers calls
> it) does some things very well, but it has serious flaws.
I will agree with you on the peculiar user interface scheme Interleaf
chooses.  Though I would much rather work in Interleaf than Pagemaker.
Frame seems far beyond both.  Incidentally most of the people I know
seem to work rather productivily in Interleaf.  
> 
> >Have you ever seen NeWS (ever seen a circular window?).
> 
> No, I haven't seen NeWS, and Yes, I've seen a circular window.  I've
> got a program for the Mac that includes WDEF's for a circular window,
> windows with holes in them, and other kinds of bizarre windows.  You
> can paste them into existing applications (or your system file).  No
> sweat.  Hasn't caught on though.  What use is a circular window?
Oh. No I'm not talking about a game.
NeWS is a *networking* window system that is viewed by most
unjaundiced eyes to be superior to X11.  NeWS is entirely Postscript
based and as such has a postscript shell, postscript previewer, etc.
The Postscript extensions Sun put into NeWS make it an object-oriented,

NeWS should be hitting the Mac world soon in the form of a port for
A/UX (multi-tasking networking) and a port for Mac OS (non-multi-tasking).
If you follow the discussions in comp.windows.misc much discussion has
centered on NeWS and X11. I think when it does, it will be extremely
popular.