Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!hplabs!hpda!hpsmtc1!kwallich From: kwallich@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (Ken Wallich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: The cost of A/ux (Sticker Shock) Message-ID: <11540138@hpsmtc1.HP.COM> Date: 18 Feb 88 18:08:33 GMT References: <11540137@hpsmtc1.HP.COM> Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino Lines: 33 >[...] Look what you'd have paid if you had bought a Lisa and followed the >Apple official upgrade path all the way. You'd now own a $ 8000 Mac Plus. I seem to remember the "orignial" Lisa having a price tag of around $10,000. Wouldn't that make it a $14,000 MacPlus? And let't not forget those of us (yes, me too), that shelled out $2500 for a 128K Mac. Following Apples' upgrade path would have given me a $5000+ MacPlus. What I find irritating is that I can build a 386 Unix machine (no processor flames, I'm only interested in software functionallity, not raw power) running X-windows, and "good 'ol" system V unix for cheeper than Apple's proposed upgrade to my $7000 MacII. All I wanted to get out of A/UX is a machine to do news and mail transfers, X-Windows, Ethernet, and TCP/IP type transfers. I can get most of that functionality a lot cheeper. Were not talking MSDOS vs MAC/OS here, were talking similar operating systems running at similar speeds doing similar things. I figure that Apple doesn't expect the "rest of us" to buy A/UX ($650 for a manual set? geesh). However, if we can get it without shelling out $3200 (!!!! my 155meg 16.5ms WrenIII cost me $1800, can you say "mark up" boys and girls?) of the upgrade cost for an slow 80MB drive, it may be worth it. As a Mac, my MacII is wonderfull, and without peer. As a UNIX machine, well, perhaps the SPARC clones are worth waiting for... -------------------- Ken Wallich *My views are mine, and mine alone* Consultant "Slimey? Mud Hole? my HOME this is!" DCI kwallich@hpsmtc1.HP.COM @Hewlett Packard ...hplabs!hpsmtc1!kwallich "If we weren't all crazy, we'd all go INSANE"