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From: ephraim@think.COM (ephraim vishniac)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: A Few Good Rumors...
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Date: 19 Feb 88 14:48:10 GMT
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In article <1686@ssc-vax.UUCP> benoni@ssc-vax.UUCP (Charles L Ditzel) writes:

>Both Apollo and Sun run desktop publishing packages that make
>PageMaker and Illustrator look positively primitive, ever heard of
>FrameMaker and Interleaf?

Yes. My boss has Interleaf on his Mac II.  I've got it here on my Sun,
too, and it drives me nuts in both implementations.  Can you say
"random menu structure"?  Why is it that menus with many of the
same commands have them in different orders, or even in different
sub-menus?  Interleaf (or "Interloss" as one of my co-workers calls
it) does some things very well, but it has serious flaws.

>Have you ever seen NeWS (ever seen a circular window?).

No, I haven't seen NeWS, and Yes, I've seen a circular window.  I've
got a program for the Mac that includes WDEF's for a circular window,
windows with holes in them, and other kinds of bizarre windows.  You
can paste them into existing applications (or your system file).  No
sweat.  Hasn't caught on though.  What use is a circular window?

>Get serious the Mac II has a *long* way to go before ever being
>considered an "engineering workstation" let alone a workstation.

By you, certainly so.  But we already knew that.


Ephraim Vishniac					  ephraim@think.com
Thinking Machines Corporation / 245 First Street / Cambridge, MA 02142-1214