Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!mordor!sri-spam!rutgers!mtune!mtgzz!drutx!clive From: clive@drutx.ATT.COM (Clive Steward) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: LightSpeed C, and C++ Message-ID: <6815@drutx.ATT.COM> Date: 23 Feb 88 01:48:50 GMT References: <6813@drutx.ATT.COM> Organization: resident visitor Lines: 54 After this last runthrough, may I take a moment for a comment. I like LightSpeed C very, very well. In addition to Mac work, I've ported a considerable amount of truly hairy Unix code to it. Always a pleasure, and wish there was _any_ environment like this for Unix. However. I've heard several ways that some influential person(s) at LightSpeed may not feel a reason to support C++. Let me say that a very large bet indeed is likely to be missed here. Opinion. C++ is as big a leap over present 'structured programming' languages as these were over 'stream-of-conciousness' code. I'm sure most of us 'feel' the mathematical consistency that 'structured code' guides. C makes this liveable. And in use, the structure also gives a feeling of freedom; we 'know' the units we break a problem into, and like the way they work together. It's fun, says the mind. C++ goes very much farther, by offering new kinds of 'meaning units'. Discover them for yourself. But the 'fun' emotion, after doing some largish projects with it, says this is really a way to go. And the code has essentially no performance difference from older C. Yes, Apple is going to support it, and I am going to buy it there, I guess. But how much better it would be to have an alternative to the long process of coding/compiling. And how especially better for all those trying to get up to speed. Because, the end results of designing a set of C++ objects is very easy to use, but the process of getting there is hard. Needs experimentation. Lightspeed C makes it fun to explore the Mac OS, and find out how to do the thing you'd like. Why not offer the same advantage to a whole new world, which happens to mesh beautifully with the Mac itself? This is only the beginning of reasons. Beauty and usefulness can define a market, I think. And later, I think there's ample reason to believe that C++ may well become the language of choice, perhaps even more than C is now, for many things. End of opinion. Will I get my wish? Anyway, thanks.