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From: bdd@calmasd.GE.COM (Brian Donahue)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: Tool tool
Message-ID: <2660@calmasd.GE.COM>
Date: 26 Feb 88 18:02:50 GMT
References: <365@future.ursa.UUCP>
Reply-To: bdd@calmasd.UUCP (Brian Donahue)
Distribution: na
Organization: Calma Company, San Diego
Lines: 39
Keywords: user interface to ResEdit/RMaker (??)

saw this over on comp.graphics...

In article [comp.graphics] <365@future.ursa.UUCP> raj@ursa.UUCP () writes:
>
>**************** Needed info on TOOL-TOOL *************************
>
>Those of you that have struggled with Sunview know how hard it it to put 
>together a complex arrangement of buttons, sliders etc on a screen, I 
>mean in terms of placement etc.  Also trying out different sizes, 
>fonts etc take a lot of time.
>What is needed here is a TOOL-TOOL - a tool that will let you 
>interactively specify
>where you want the panels, buttons, sliders, canvasses etc., 
>and when you hit "go",
>it will either write the code for you or atleast give the parameters 
>to use in the calls to window_create.
>
>if any of you out there have it.  You can email me at sun!gotham!ursa!raj.

and it struck me as something that would be extremely useful for mac
programming...Granted, we've got ResEdit and RMaker already, but
as far as *user-friendly MacIntosh* programs go, I think theyre a real
pain in the *ss to use.  For instance, my version of ResEdit (i dont
know which version I've got, but it doesnt quite work as the
newest LSC documentation says it should) puts up a *textual* representation of
a window and makes you hack on things like x & y coordinates, etc...
textually.  I mean, wouldnt it be easier (and more user-friendly?) to just 
put up a window, let you drag it around/change its shape/etc to where
you want it?

I've seen some icon-editors that are somewhat of an improvement over
ResEdit's "fatbits" one, but are there dialog-editors out there??
menu-editors??   Has anyone put them all together?

sliders?  what's a slider?  ;-)  (BTW, if anyone has some spare code
implemented for a slider, I'd appreciate it if you sent it my way...)

signed ,
fed up with bad UIFs			...sdcsvax!calmasd!bdd