Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!seismo!sundc!pitstop!sun!amdcad!ames!hao!gatech!bloom-beacon!mit-eddie!apollo!rees From: rees@apollo.uucp (Jim Rees) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: Forgeries: a suggestion for bringing them under control Message-ID: <3a5b736b.b8ab@apollo.uucp> Date: 18 Feb 88 13:51:00 GMT References: <1861@epimass.EPI.COM> <14276@oddjob.UChicago.EDU> <586@nusdhub.UUCP> Organization: Apollo Computer, Chelmsford, Mass. Lines: 22 The information used is: 1) the four [or less] characters directly proceding the "@" in the message id. ... Item 1 is used to generate a two-column key. the even numbered columns forming one key and the odd forming the other. Becaues the key is basied on the accession number portion of the message id, no two messages from the same source user&machine will have the same key. Not true. The usenet message interchange standard only says that the entire message-id is unique. For some machines, like notes gateways (never thought I'd be defending them!) and Apollos running distributed news, the last four bytes preceeding the '@' are almost guaranteed to be the same every time. There are other holes in this scheme as well. It doesn't alter the fundamental ease with which forgeries can be made, if I understand it correctly.