Xref: utzoo news.admin:1642 talk.bizarre:9018 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!lll-tis!ames!hao!gatech!uflorida!codas!burl!clyde!watmath!looking!brad From: brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) Newsgroups: news.admin,talk.bizarre Subject: Re: Top 25 News Groups for the last 2 weeks (from talk.bizarre) Message-ID: <1435@looking.UUCP> Date: 25 Feb 88 08:21:51 GMT References: <7080@uunet.UU.NET> <1918@mind.UUCP> <1156WGRCU@CUNYVM> <8272@eddie.MIT.EDU> Reply-To: brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) Organization: Looking Glass Software Ltd. Lines: 48 In article <8272@eddie.MIT.EDU> wisner@eddie.MIT.EDU (Bill Wisner) writes: >In article <1156WGRCU@CUNYVM> [god, no, not BITNET!] WGRCU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU >(Bill Rubin) grumps to news.admin: >>Now, I have never read talk.bizarre, and I know there are some sites >>which do not carry the talk. groups, but we have decided not to do this >>here, because we feel that it is important that we carry as much as >>possible. >> >>But when I see this kind of garbage, posted not once but three times, I >>have to wonder if we are making the correct decision. I would ask if >>people realize the overhead involved in each message they post, but the >>obvious answer in this case is that they could care less. At minimum, >>talk.bizarre postings are going to get a much shorter life at my site. > >This, students, is a textbook case of WHINY ADMINISTRATOR. Yes, that's >right, WHINY ADMINISTRATOR. Apologies to greg. > >I would even ask if Mr. Rubin has the tiniest shred of a sense of humor. > >Alas, the obvious answer in this case is no. > >I'm done preaching. I'll go post 96K to talk.bizarre now. Good day. I have to say that Bill Rubin is right, and that what we have is a textbook case of a whiny talk.bizarre reader. I read net.bizarre when it started for a while, and there were a few good things. When I started rec.humor.funny, I read talk.bizarre for 2 months to see if I could cull anything funny, and I found only 1 item. (I'll admit I'm tough) All this would be fine if it weren't for this stuff that's going on there right now about "pumping up the volume" and trying to get the highest volume on the net. Talk.bizarre is surpassed in per reader cost only by some binary/source groups and talk.politics/religion/abortion groups. I tell you I get more and more serious every day about my idea of putting high volume groups on probation. This crazy attitude is costing everybody real money. Certain types of groups feed more volume in an upward spiral. I get my news feed locally, so up to now I haven't had much to complain about except the money I've spent on bigger disk packs. But now my feed keeps asking me to spend $1,000 on a Telebit because dialin times are too long (even for local calls!) and people who dial in for other reasons complain that it's busy too often with news calls, and ask me to get other lines. I don't know how people who feed over long distance lines can put up with it! -- Brad Templeton, Looking Glass Software Ltd. - Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473