Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!unisoft!hoptoad!gnu From: gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: distribution of sensitive software like DES Message-ID: <4106@hoptoad.uucp> Date: 22 Feb 88 06:07:50 GMT References: <8801281211.AA13780@decwrl.dec.com> <2275@geac.UUCP> Organization: Nebula Consultants in San Francisco Lines: 27 I'm glad to see that a lawyer has finally looked over the analysis of PD cryptographic software export controls that I did a while ago. I still think we have a free country but will go look up the regulations they quote, to make sure. It may be that before we post something, we have to put it in a magazine or newsletter, or offer it on floppies to anyone who sends in $5 -- no big deal. I would prefer to have a court rule that posting something to 8000 machines, many of which are public-access, and including it in a software library accessible to anyone, is making it "freely available to the public". But for that to happen, somebody will have to take somebody to court, and so far there are no volunteers. The point is that information which is freely available to anyone in the US can be exported. If any Tom, Dick, or Harry in the states can get it, there should be no grounds to hassle somebody over exporting it. Realize that the lawyer who came up with this opinion is paid by DEC to keep DEC out of trouble. The safest thing to do, in the short term, is to turn and run from any kind of trouble. I just think that the long term trouble caused by only the government having privacy is worth facing the short term trouble. I'll have more to say later. -- {pyramid,ptsfa,amdahl,sun,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu gnu@toad.com "Watch me change my world..." -- Liquid Theatre