Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!husc6!mit-eddie!bbn!rochester!PT.CS.CMU.EDU!andrew.cmu.edu!jk3k+ From: jk3k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph G. Keane) Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: One time pads? Message-ID: Date: 23 Feb 88 20:40:32 GMT References: <4209@june.cs.washington.edu> <1988Feb15.151522.5094@utzoo.uucp> <7272@brl-smoke.ARPA> <4104@hoptoad.uucp> <7315@brl-smoke.ARPA>, <858@astroatc.UUCP> Organization: Carnegie Mellon University Lines: 10 In-Reply-To: <858@astroatc.UUCP> > How about using the message itself, in some form or another, > as the pad. > comments? Not very secure: all you have to do is guess the first character! Even if you have a reasonably large key (offset), a known-plaintext attack will get some information, and it propagates forward and backward. --Joe