Xref: utzoo sci.misc:844 sci.physics:2922 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!portal!cup.portal.com!Wasser From: Wasser@cup.portal.com Newsgroups: sci.misc,sci.physics Subject: Re: differences between sound and light waves? Message-ID: <3427@cup.portal.com> Date: 23 Feb 88 03:57:06 GMT References: <413@prlb2.UUCP> <4110@aw.sei.cmu.edu> <6917@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> <4809@ihlpg.ATT.COM> <1181@microsoft.UUCP> Organization: The Portal System (TM) Lines: 29 XPortal-User-Id: 1.1001.3551 The thing to remember when discussing Cerenkov radiation is this: "c" is the only "magic velocity" that cannot be exceeded (or even attained by objects which have rest mass.) Light only travels "at c" in free space. In water, for instance, light "travels" at about roughly 0.7 times "c". Particles being emitted from decaying nuclides can certainly exceed 0.7 times c. Charged particles can be accelerated through a high potential difference at least as high as 0.9 times c. So if you have beta particles, for instance, traveling through water at greater than 0.7c, they set up point disturbances that spread out to form a cone of radiation, akin to that of a supersonic object forming a shock cone in the atmosphere. A large portion of the cone's energy falls in the visible light range. Due to the dispersion effect, different colors of light have different indices of refraction, and it just so happens that Cerenkov radiation shows up as bluish. The half angle of the cone can actually be measured and used to determine the energy (and thus the speed) of the particle causing it. That would likely make a physics prof turn green, but, put in simple words, there is nothing sacred about "the speed of light". However, the constant "c" is another story. Cheers, Wasser What Descartes really said was "I Drink, Therefore I Am." His students quietly changed the quote to read as we know it today.