Path: utzoo!hoptoad!dasys1!fastrax
From: fastrax@dasys1.UUCP (Jonathan Herbert)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Alternative Audio Stimulation (fot the cyberpunk)
Summary: aesthetics?   !
Keywords: Music?  Who needs Music??
Message-ID: <3373@dasys1.UUCP>
Date: 13 Mar 88 08:45:11 GMT
References: <7205@ncoast.UUCP> <1694@phoenix.Princeton.EDU> <8459@reed.UUCP>
Organization: The Big Electric Cat
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In article <8459@reed.UUCP>, jshea@reed.UUCP (Jackson Shea) writes:
> >
> >Explain what you mean by true aesthetics transcending time. As far
> >as I know, no living experience transcends time. 
> >Neither Beethoven nor your blood-letting-type remedy for my headache.
> 
> If I may be so bold as to jump into this conversation, but I just couldn't re-
> sist the mention of aesthetics.  I'd like to bounce around this interpretation
> I've cooked up.
> 
> I find true aesthetics is transcendant because the essence of qualifying it as
> "true" transcends the mere experience itself and the music (or painting, or 
> ornate belt buckle from Guatemala) becomes a mere vehicle through which the
> "true" aesthetic is transported.  The true aesthetic can be seen as an inten-
> sity of emotion.  

Actually, Philip Rawson in his book Drawing gives a good
discussion of aesthetics, and the driving force behind the urge
to create.  He emphasizes the importance of the numinous, by
which I understood that which was so enmeshed in the meaning of
to be, that there was entry into 'mythic time'.  A 'time beyond
time' would seem to me to transcend time.  In spiritual
experiences that I have had, either while painting or dancing or
other more personal 'times,' Time has indeed seemed to
'disappear.'

A bunch of time seems to have gone into that signature!

-- 
Jonathan Herbert
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