Path: utzoo!yunexus!geac!daveb From: daveb@geac.UUCP (David Collier-Brown) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Rent control, zoning, and politics. Summary: bribery? what, little old me.... Message-ID: <2455@geac.UUCP> Date: 16 Mar 88 02:02:38 GMT Article-I.D.: geac.2455 Posted: Tue Mar 15 21:02:38 1988 References: <594@oscvax.UUCP> <2303@unicus.UUCP> <2399@geac.UUCP> <1988Mar14.201738.21165@lsuc.uucp> Reply-To: daveb@geac.UUCP (David Collier-Brown) Distribution: ont Organization: /usr/lib/news/organisation Lines: 37 >In article <2399@geac.UUCP> daveb@geac.UUCP (David Collier-Brown) writes: >> This is a **wonderfull** incentive to those who are into >>soliciting bribes: getting a variance can take weeks or years, >>depending on lord-knows-what. > In article <1988Mar14.201738.21165@lsuc.uucp> dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) writes: >Are you saying that bribery goes on in the Toronto municipal >government, or merely that the system, as constituted, might >permit it? Neither. I'm saying that the structure of bylaw and enforcement is a real inducement to the dishonest to offer and accept bribes: We have a requirement for a special act of a city committee, without published guidelines or criteria and with no criteria inferrable by inspection from outside. We also have a very large variation in the time required to get such a special action taken, and no way of inferring from outside why one case is different from another, apparently equivalent one. If I was dishonest, I would welcome this: Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt are wonderfull tools for the dishonest and/or unethical. And no, I do not know first-hand is bribes actually change hands, nor am I particularly inclined to speculate. --dave (I'm not a cynic, I just used to deal with IBM) c-b -- David Collier-Brown. {mnetor yunexus utgpu}!geac!daveb Geac Computers International Inc., | Computer Science loses its 350 Steelcase Road,Markham, Ontario, | memory (if not its mind) CANADA, L3R 1B3 (416) 475-0525 x3279 | every 6 months.