Path: utzoo!yunexus!unicus!craig From: craig@unicus.UUCP (Craig D. Hubley) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Rent control, zoning, and politics. Message-ID: <2379@unicus.UUCP> Date: 15 Mar 88 21:47:27 GMT Article-I.D.: unicus.2379 Posted: Tue Mar 15 16:47:27 1988 References: <594@oscvax.UUCP> <2303@unicus.UUCP> <2399@geac.UUCP> <1988Mar14.201738.21165@lsuc.uucp> Reply-To: craig@Unicus.COM (Craig D. Hubley) Distribution: ont Organization: Unicus Software Inc., Toronto, Ont. Lines: 66 In article <1988Mar14.201738.21165@lsuc.uucp> dave@lsuc.UUCP (David Sherman) writes: >In article <2399@geac.UUCP> daveb@geac.UUCP (David Collier-Brown) writes: >> Specifically, if one wants to add a deck to the roof of your >>garage, you have to apply for an get a variance to your zoning. >> This applies to almost any neighbourhood in Toronto proper, even >>if you have the only un-decked roof in the area (say, census tract). >> >> This is a **wonderfull** incentive to those who are into >>soliciting bribes: getting a variance can take weeks or years, >>depending on lord-knows-what. > >Are you saying that bribery goes on in the Toronto municipal >government, or merely that the system, as constituted, might >permit it? (I'm referring to illegal bribery, not tradeoffs >between builders and the city that are agreed to and that >are for the city's benefit.) I'll let Dave speak for himself, but since the system provides no rational criterion for such `variances' and since exceptions are common, and since legislators are human, and since very little is excluded from their jurisdiction, I think the system not only permits but *encourages* these illegal activities. Lack of rationality in law leads to lack of respect for law, and rightfully so. As to the more sophisticated bribery/coercion that goes on between builders and the city, `for the city's benefit': Either the things that are `forbidden' are genuinely bad, and thus should not be excepted, such as toxic waste dumps next to farms, or they are simply `bargaining tools' to be used to coerce builders into doing what politicians want done, based on arbitrary measurements that change every few years. Contributions to municipal politicians' war chests are only part of the transaction. I'll be the first to admit that urban planning is not an exact science, but using loophole-wracked regulations `for the city's benefit' is. Builders who seek exception to these rules pay out tremendous amounts of money to lawyers and lobbyists, arguing their case. This lets out the little guys right away, unless its something trivial. Furthermore, the lobbying situation itself requires legislation, including conflict of interest and the like. The end result of all this is to remove the decision-making power from the law, where it is at least stable and based on precedent and on judges, and give it to the politicians. It certainly does not end up in the hands of qualified urban planners, whose definition of `for the city's benefit', might actually be objective at least. There is simply no exclusion of dishonesty where there is no definition of honesty. And Toronto is such a place, when it comes to zoning laws. Legality is a side issue. Whether or not a particular tactic is legal changes day to day, as the regulations get more complex. Eventually, as I think is the case now, the regulations change faster than legal precedents can be set. This is a classic 20th-century problem, but the classic 20th-century solution: omnipotent bureacrats who are above reproach, is not acceptable to a society that wants the common man to have rights before the law. The massive tome that is Toronto's zoning law is not law at all. Lawyers don't debate it, lobbyists do. >David Sherman If anyone can come up with a rational justification for the `variance' that Dave C-B mentions above, I'd love to hear it. Until then, this stinks. Craig Hubley, Unicus Corporation, Toronto, Ont. craig@Unicus.COM (Internet) {uunet!mnetor, utzoo!utcsri}!unicus!craig (dumb uucp) mnetor!unicus!craig@uunet.uu.net (dumb arpa)