Xref: utzoo comp.ai:1422 comp.edu:971 comp.cog-eng:498 Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!mcvax!ukc!its63b!hwcs!hci!gilbert From: gilbert@hci.hw.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) Newsgroups: comp.ai,comp.edu,comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: Becoming CAI literate Message-ID: <183@glenlivet.hci.hw.ac.uk> Date: 2 Mar 88 13:00:37 GMT References: <776@zippy.eecs.umich.edu> <3316@killer.UUCP> <26@dogie.edu> <27@dogie.edu> <2253@uvacs.CS.VIRGINIA.EDU> Reply-To: gilbert@hci.hw.ac.uk (Gilbert Cockton) Organization: Scottish HCI Centre Lines: 30 In article <2253@uvacs.CS.VIRGINIA.EDU> glb@uvacs.CS.VIRGINIA.EDU (Gina L. Bull) writes: >The computer teaches the child. There is another way to >use computers. Would you say that a blackboard teaches the child? Or >that the overhead projector teaches the child? No, a teacher uses a >blackboard, or overhead projector, or computer, to teach the child. Many Indo-European languages suffer from the pathological antinomy between subject and object. Either X effects Y, or Y effects X. Thus the computer TEACHES the child. The introduction of a human agent using computers/blackboards/OHPs as an instrument, does not change the fundamental activeness/passiveness of the subject-object relationship. Basque has an 'ergative' case, which has been characterised as carrying the role of a fully co-operating, active object. In Basque, 'to teach' takes the ergative. In this sense of teaching, a computer could only teach a child IF it was capable of co-operative interaction. Watch a good classroom teacher and you will see that interaction is a set of social skills, with good interaction defined differently according to the embracing culture(s). So the question is, can computers be programmed to demonstrate the social skills underpinning succesful interaction? Do the people who like programming most have these skills themselves :-) If not, computers can never rise beyond instruments in learning situations. they will not teach any more than a book does, or a flight-simulator without an instructor. -- Gilbert Cockton, Scottish HCI Centre, Heriot-Watt University, Chambers St., Edinburgh, EH1 1HX. JANET: gilbert@uk.ac.hw.hci ARPA: gilbert%hci.hw.ac.uk@cs.ucl.ac.uk UUCP: ..{backbone}!mcvax!ukc!hci!gilbert