Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-lcc!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!dalcsug.UUCP!creelman From: creelman@dalcsug.UUCP (Paul Creelman) Newsgroups: comp.ai.digest Subject: Uncertainty and FUZZY LOGIC VS PROBABILITY Message-ID: <8802291913.AA13911@dalcsug.UUCP> Date: 29 Feb 88 19:13:18 GMT Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, N.S., Canada Lines: 41 Keywords: Uncertainty,probability Approved: ailist@kl.sri.com Subject: Uncertainty and FUZZY LOGIC VS PROBABILITY Newsgroups: comp.ai.digest Keywords: UNCERTAINTY, PROBABILITY There appears to be some discussion about uncertainty by Eric Neufeld and others. According to Spiegelhalter, the use of probability for representing uncertainty in expert systems is the wrong method. He says it is inappropriate because uncertainty in knowledge does not match the chance mechanism of an observable event. It is unnecessary since no meaning must be attached to numbers, but instead the rank order of hypotheses is often all that matters in an expert system. Furthermore probability is somewhat impractical since it requires too many estimates of prior probabilities, fails to distinguish ignorance from uncertainty, and fails to provide an explanation of conclusions. I must agree. Down with probability! Surely what is needed is a simplified version of Shafer's evidence theory which deals with all possible subsets of the possible variable values, the frame of discernment. A number is associated with each subset which measures the certainty that the actual variable value is in that subset. Suppose we coarsen the uncertainty measure by reducing the number of subsets specified. While providing a measure of certainty for all subsets of values may be impractical, a system that uses only a limited number of these subsets could be very useful. If only there was a way of consistently updating certainty for such subsets! I wonder if additivity of the certainty measure is necessary. Perhaps a condition like c(B)> c(C) -> c(A+B) > c(A+C) where A B and C are disjoint subsets and + is set union. Of course, it is desirable to allow A B and C to have common elements as well. I hope this will stimulate discussion. For references, see William Gale,ed.,Artificial Intelligence and Statistics, Addison-Wesley Publishing Company,1986. L.N.Kanal,J.F.Lemmer,eds.,Uncertainty in Artificial Intelligence, North-Holland,1986. Paul Creelman student Dalhousie University ZZ