Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!rosevax!nis!meccts!mn-at1!alan From: alan@mn-at1.UUCP (Alan Klietz) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: What's a Vax 11/780 MIP really? Message-ID: <413@mn-at1.UUCP> Date: 12 Mar 88 11:37:03 GMT Organization: Roseville, MN Lines: 47 We all know what a VAX "MIPS" is, right? But have you ever bothered to actually measure it? DEC did. A recent column in one of the Unix trade mags reveals that the Vax 780 = 1 MIPS rule-of-thumb may be grossly overstated. Here are some excerpts from the April 1988 issue of Unix/World's "Inside Edge" column, by Omri Serlin, Recently confirmed data published by DEC staffers proves that the VAX 11/780, accepted by the industry and the press as a 1 MIPS machine, was actually less than half as powerful. The discovery affecets numerous industry comparisons relative to the 780. Over the past several years, both DEC and the industry as a whole seem to have accepted the notion that the VAX 11/780 was, more or less, a 1 MIPS machine. DEC publicly confirmed the fact in December 1985, when it published full-page ads characterizing the VAX 8650 as a '6 MIPS' machine; DEC officially regards the machine as having six times the power of an 11/780. The number of performance claims by other players in the computer field that assume a 1 MIPS rating for the 11/780 is too numerous to count. In October 1987, one of the authors [of the DEC study] presented a paper on the performance of the VAX 8800, a dual-processor machine in which each processor is six times as fast as the 11/780, by DEC's official reckoning. This paper reported on some preliminary measurements that showed the 8800 processor to have a cycle per average instruction (CPAI) rate of 8.4. At cycle time of 45ns, this translates into a MIPS rating of 2.65. [End of quote.] Therefore one VAX 780 "MIPS" is approximately 0.44 "honest-to-god" VAX MIPS? (HTGV MIPS?) Or a 126% overestimate? -- Alan Klietz Minnesota Supercomputer Center (*) 1200 Washington Avenue South Minneapolis, MN 55415 UUCP: alan@mn-at1.k.mn.org Ph: +1 612 626 1836 ARPA: alan@uc.msc.umn.edu (was umn-rei-uc.arpa) (*) An affiliate of the University of Minnesota