Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!elxsi!len From: len@elxsi.UUCP (Len Mills) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: What's a Vax 11/780 MIP really? Message-ID: <748@elxsi.UUCP> Date: 16 Mar 88 18:53:31 GMT References: <413@mn-at1.UUCP> Reply-To: len@elxsi.UUCP (Len Mills) Organization: ELXSI Super Computers, San Jose Lines: 40 In article <413@mn-at1.UUCP> alan@mn-at1.UUCP (Alan Klietz) writes: >We all know what a VAX "MIPS" is, right? But have you ever >bothered to actually measure it? DEC did. A recent column in one of >the Unix trade mags reveals that the Vax 780 = 1 MIPS rule-of-thumb >may be grossly overstated. > >Therefore one VAX 780 "MIPS" is approximately 0.44 "honest-to-god" >VAX MIPS? (HTGV MIPS?) Or a 126% overestimate? > I offer a tiny bit of (probably well-known) historical perspective. Many moons ago, in the dim ages of the past, ITEL's System Development Division performed some measurements on an IBM 370/158 clone (AS-5) using an event counter driven by "EndOP" (microcode end-of-instruction) which yielded 1.08 MIPS over a 36-hour period. Hourly rates varied between 1.01 and 1.20. Common industry usage rated the 158 at one MIP. It also rated the 158 at 2X a 780. From this usage comes the old rule-of-thumb that an IBM MIP is 2X a VAX MIP. This rule is still in common use among business oriented computer publications. Since this group is primarily interested in scientific usage rather than business usage, perhaps the continued use of VUPS is justified. I don't want all the flamage that would arise from proposing the use of IBM MIPS. >-- >Alan Klietz >Minnesota Supercomputer Center (*) >1200 Washington Avenue South >Minneapolis, MN 55415 UUCP: alan@mn-at1.k.mn.org >Ph: +1 612 626 1836 ARPA: alan@uc.msc.umn.edu (was umn-rei-uc.arpa) > >(*) An affiliate of the University of Minnesota -- Len Mills ... {uunet,ucbvax!sun,lll-lcc!lll-tis,altos86,bridge2}!elxsi!len