Path: utzoo!yunexus!geac!daveb From: daveb@geac.UUCP (David Collier-Brown) Newsgroups: comp.databases Subject: Re: Informix 4GL Question? Keywords: Informix 4GL, SQL, Relational theory Message-ID: <2436@geac.UUCP> Date: 11 Mar 88 18:35:47 GMT Article-I.D.: geac.2436 Posted: Fri Mar 11 13:35:47 1988 References: <714@uel.uel.co.uk> <2314@geac.UUCP> <1169@ucsfcca.ucsf.edu> <2390@geac.UUCP> <1180@ucsfcca.ucsf.edu> Reply-To: daveb@geac.UUCP (David Collier-Brown) Organization: The Geac Block-Cursor Department. Lines: 39 >In article <2390@geac.UUCP> daveb@geac.UUCP (David Collier-Brown) writes: >> >> That's what I was hoping to discover. Relational theory excludes >>significant consideration of certain uses of the data which it >>describes. And that is a prefectly reasonable thing for it to do: >>it is concerned with the nature and organization of data, not ad-hoc >>manipulations such as the ones I raised. > In article <1180@ucsfcca.ucsf.edu> brianc@daedalus.UUCP (Brian Colfer) writes: > See my followup with CURSORS. Seen and appreciated, thanks. (other people made equivalent suggestions). Side comment: someone on the net is forwarding latest-message-first... I keep getting things sorted by descending date. End of side comment. > a good database model. I think that the relational model is clearly > a good model. I don't see this as advocating kludges rather it is > building on sound theory and research with a modular approach. [...] The foundation of the relational model is sound. It is >based on predicate calculus which has a long and established history. Yes, I agree predicate calculus is effective and surprisingly descriptive: (A x | x is a woman (E w | w is work (w belongs to x -> w is undone)) What is the next logical tool? The one which can describe cursors. (I admit to having forgotten enough that I have trouble reading my copy of Copi). --daveb -- David Collier-Brown. {mnetor yunexus utgpu}!geac!daveb Geac Computers International Inc., | Computer Science loses its 350 Steelcase Road,Markham, Ontario, | memory (if not its mind) CANADA, L3R 1B3 (416) 475-0525 x3279 | every 6 months.