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From: elg@killer.UUCP (Eric Green)
Newsgroups: comp.edu
Subject: Re: In defence of the K-12 school system
Message-ID: <3560@killer.UUCP>
Date: 4 Mar 88 06:03:03 GMT
References: <1266@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>
Organization: Bayou Telecommunications
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in article <1266@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, windley@iris.ucdavis.edu (Phil Windley) says:
> group was more specific than a general education group.  Comp.edu suggests
> to me a blending of CS and Education issues. like how do we teach CS and
> how do we use computers to teach.  AM I way out in left field here?  Does

I recently (~ 2 months ago) reposted some articles about declining enrollments
in Engineering, CS, mathematics, and other mathematical-related subjects, and
concerns on the part of various parties that the trend would not reverse no
matter how much we pay our engineers. Reason: most people who graduate from
high school can barely add, much less do the sort of mathematics required for
success in a technical field. Walk into a freshman CS class at a
middle-echelon state university. Count the students. Divide by 10. That's how
many will remain, after the rest fail Calculus four times.

Right now, the only reason we have professors in Engineering fields is because
of a trade imbalance of yet another kind -- we have more foreign-born
professors than native-born professors, by a factor of more than 2 to 1. If
those people go home, we're in deep sh*t.

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