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From: terry@wsccs.UUCP (terry)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Using an ANSI emulator with VMS editors
Message-ID: <307@wsccs.UUCP>
Date: 12 Mar 88 09:36:27 GMT
References: <2058@bsu-cs.UUCP> <719@ddsw1.UUCP> <190@wsccs.UUCP> <13328@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
Lines: 37
Summary: Nub of the problem

In article <13328@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, newbery@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Michael Newbery) writes:
> In article <190@wsccs.UUCP> I write:
> >[...] You may also notice that ANSI terminals have 24 lines and
> 				****************************
> Nonsense! Where in X3.64 does it say this?

	Find one ANSI 3.64 compliant terminal not:

	1) Made by IBM (ah, yes, a maker of freindly terminals, indeed ;-)
	2) Pretended to by an MesS-DOS box (UPort and SCO fall into here)
	3) Built with connection to #2 in mind (things like the wy60 and
	   wy75, wy85 don't count, in other words)

	And I'll reverse my statement.  Till then, I think I'll let it stand.
I think you took me rather out of context.  I was simply pointing to an
obvious difference between ANSI 3.64 and ANSI.SYS, as a generalization.  After
Re-reading the standard, I agree that it does not say this, but neither does it
say that all characters are displayed right-side-up... this is, however, the
most common, and therefore de-facto standard, method of implimentation.

> >[...] There is a terminal database on VMS.  It's called
> >SYS$SYSTEM:SMGTERMS.TXT.
> Which insufficient software (especially DEC's) uses - which is the nub
> of the problem.

	Because it's poorly implimented and very sloooooooow.  THAT is the
nub of the problem.  If you'll recall, I was simply contradicting someone
who had said there wasn't one, not advocating it's use, any more than I
advocate the use of MP/M for several secretaries doing word-processing.


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