Path: utzoo!mnetor!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!ARAMIS.RUTGERS.EDU!hedrick From: hedrick@ARAMIS.RUTGERS.EDU (Charles Hedrick) Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip Subject: Re: maximum Ethernet throughput Message-ID: <8803091807.AA02941@athos.rutgers.edu> Date: 9 Mar 88 18:07:07 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 20 We know of no evidence that Suns violate the minimum spacing requirement. Indeed if they did, things that work for us would fail, so I don't believe it. However 8Mb transfers would certainly open us to a whole range of things that have never been tested before. While Ethernet should in theory tolerate multiple simultaenous high-speed users, as far as I know it isn't being used that way now. Proper functioning would depend upon everybody's random backoff working right. Given the past history in networking, I am not prepared to bet that untested features work. One could imagine failures everywhere from Ethernet controller microcode to device drivers to protocols implementation. It would also let us test whether protocol designs implicitly assume that an Ethernet can never be congested. Certainly DECnet deals very differently with Ethernet than with point to point lines, and to a certainly extent IP does as well. When designers were thinking of Ethernet, I rather suspect they might not have considered the possibility that one host could actually use all 10Mb of bandwidth. It is possible that protocols such as ARP and DECnet hello would have to be rethought in this context. (For the benefit of the person asking the original question, let me note that there's no reason to think that a token ring would help. Indeed it is slower, so one is in danger of reaching this unknown realm sooner.)