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From: PGOETZ@LOYVAX.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple
Subject: Misc.
Message-ID: <8803151140.aa13045@SMOKE.BRL.ARPA>
Date: 15 Mar 88 16:27:00 GMT
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Tramp: The Apple III and the Lisa are two entirely different computers. Which
  do you mean? The III came with a II emulator program (it could only
  emulate a 48K II, I think).

Craig Williamson: I bought a keyboard & case combo for my II+ from Jameco (I
  think) which I really like.  It has full lowercase, extra characters like
  _\[]{}, a numeric keypad which I never use, and ROMed-in macros (ie
  ctrl-; or something is CALL-151, ctrl-2 is CATALOG). It has both autorepeat
  (like the IIe) and a repeat key (like the II+). The repeat key repeats
  twice as fast as a standard Apple, a great help if you do any Applesoft
  programming (I don't know how Apple got away with such a lousy editor;
  the Commodore PET 2001 did full-screen editing in 1976 or 77).
  Keyboard & case cost around $90? about 3? years ago.

Andy McFadden: I, too, think info-apple is a fine place to talk about
  specific methods for deprotecting Apple software. It is an Apple forum,
  for everything relating to Apples. And copy-protection teaches you many
  things about the Apple. I find copy protection interesting. I have several
  games which I bought, deprotected, and never used (or traded) - the protection
  was more interesting than the game. If you don't like it, don't read those
  messages. I also support the distribution of Apple BBS numbers,
  regardless of what obnoxious names they have given themselves. Caveat hackor.
  I happen to believe that information should be shared, so it's true I have a
  knee-jerk reaction to anybody saying "Don't give this information here," but
  in this case I think it is justified.

I'd like DDD too.

comp.apple.binaries: When this vote was being taken, I tried to vote but
  don't think my vote got thru. Anyway, I never saw a SINGLE message
  explaining just WHAT comp.apple.binaries would be (I still don't know
  if it would be a file server or a newsgroup). So don't complain of
  apathy to me - how do you expect us to get excited about something which
  you never tell us what it is?

BTW, does anyone know how to find other groups on the net like this one?

Phil Goetz
PGOETZ@LOYVAX.BITNET